mov

1y

And? Did I say anything different dumb f***?

TikTok was already big as f*** in the US in 2020 because of the pandemic and thats a fact

TheFader

1y

Brother, the TikTok craze literally began 5 years ago

Idk why people keep treating TikTok as some new app. It’s been more relevant for longer periods of time than apps like Instagram and Snapchat ever were

mangotflu

1y

Almost every trend is from tiktok, every largely talked about moment happens there

Also same with streaming. Kai Cenat + Speed are 10x bigger than any rapper that's blown up in the past 5 years.

Pop is trying hard as f*** to push Tate McRae, no one cares, she's absolutely nothing compared to these tiktokers/streamers etc

mangotflu

1y

Right but now everyones on it, they werent in 2020

mov

1y

They were in the US already in 2020 lol

Free YoungBoy

1y

I’ve had this discussion with Fader before. He doesn’t understand how big these streamers and influencers are.

mangotflu

1y

Semantics, 2019/2020 is when it blew up, this doesn't chnage what im saying

mov

1y

It doesn't change the fact that TikTok isn't the main problem why we have no new hits so far this year lmao

We had plenty of hits last year

mov

1y

It doesn't change the fact that TikTok isn't the main problem why we have no new hits so far this year lmao

We had plenty of hits last year

mov

1y

No, you're just not from the US so you don't know how the youth here really is

You already exposed yourself again with saying that TikTok wasn't "big" "~5 years ago"

mangotflu

1y

it had 700m users in 2020

it has 2.5b now, i don't think i have to teach you math here

mov

1y

Can you read?

Who the f*** cares? It was already very big in the US and thats what matters itt because we're only talking about the charts. Nobody cares about Europe or Taiwan

mov

1y

Can you read?

Who the f*** cares? It was already very big in the US and thats what matters itt because we're only talking about the charts. Nobody cares about Europe or Taiwan

Gosh

1y

The cuss words scare the foreigners you gotta soften up for the little guy

mangotflu

1y

i'd just rather watch tiktok instead of listen to music tbh, that's how it seems to be for many many people thesedays

mangotflu

1y

hard to love it these days when most new releases are ass tbh

it's why so many cultural moments are happening on tiktok/other apps instead of in music now

music as a whole is losing its cultural influence due to tiktok+music being as

Free YoungBoy

1y

You should’ve said streaming tbh. Tik Tokers have no motion tbh. They got a lot of views but they are essentially just models.

The real cultural impact is in streaming. AMP, Speed, XQC, Adin, plaqueboymax, etc

These are people you can actually argue have encroached on a lot of artists spaces in the cultural landscape

Free YoungBoy

1y

You should’ve said streaming tbh. Tik Tokers have no motion tbh. They got a lot of views but they are essentially just models.

The real cultural impact is in streaming. AMP, Speed, XQC, Adin, plaqueboymax, etc

These are people you can actually argue have encroached on a lot of artists spaces in the cultural landscape

mov

1y

Nah TikTok definitely has motion. That sombr guy has 2 songs over 3 million streams on global Spotify right now because he went viral on TikTok with both songs

Free YoungBoy

1y

TikTok can blow up music for sure but I’m talking about individual creators. Maybe I’m just out of the loop but who was the last big tik toker to blow up like that

mangotflu

1y

Tiktok is more a s*** ton of microinfluencers tbh, there aren't really any huge celebrities coming out of it anymore. But there's an endless amount of micro celebrities coming out of it, that all fall off after a few years

Tiktok is where all the trends come from though. Trends don't really start in music anymore.

Streaming yeah

I think Speed is bigger than any music artist from even 2018. He's 100% bigger than Billie Eilish, Morgan, etc