Sep 2, 2025·1 reply
Mafia BossIf you can bot streams that count for billboard this easily why dont you think any fanbases have done this?
Nobody said it was “easy”
You do know that streaming farms are an actual thing that exists right? Like thats not a conspiracy or anything, these are legit real world things that exist
- Sep 2, 2025·1 replyTheFader
Nobody said it was “easy”
You do know that streaming farms are an actual thing that exists right? Like thats not a conspiracy or anything, these are legit real world things that exist
and they get filtered out is the point.
- Sep 2, 2025Mafia Boss
and they get filtered out is the point.
Yes, some of them, not all of them
Sep 2, 2025·2 repliesTheFaderDrake’s numbers looking more and more suspicious with each passing day
Nah ngl you have a mental problem. Its getting weird bro
Sep 2, 2025TheFaderDrake be botting too
Weeknd be botting
All these niggas bot, you’d be a fool to think otherwise
Niggas finding out about botting be like:
- Sep 2, 2025·1 replyBlue Man
Wow! Drake's monthly numbers stayed consistent while Kendrick's dropped precipitously. I wonder what changed?
But fader said that Drakes numbers are getting more and more suspicious as the days go on!!!!!! No you’re lying it can’t be… PHOTOSHOP!!!
- Sep 2, 2025·1 replyBig Dog
But fader said that Drakes numbers are getting more and more suspicious as the days go on!!!!!! No you’re lying it can’t be… PHOTOSHOP!!!
1.57B Spotify streams per month this year and only one song in the Top 50 Streamed of the US this year. If that was Kendrick, y’all would call it suspicious
- Sep 2, 2025Big Dog
Nah ngl you have a mental problem. Its getting weird bro
People finally waking up to the fact that Drake’s numbers have most likely been fabricated over the past 10 years and you call it a mental problem. Was it a mental problem when y’all said the same thing about Kendrick’s numbers all of last year?
- Sep 2, 2025
#1 in total streams year after year, yet only one song in the Top 50 highest streamed songs of the year
Call that s*** BC&B
Back Catalog & Bots
- Sep 2, 2025·1 replymangotflu
So whats the excuse for TTPD being a massive flop then?
You mean the same album that was the best selling in the world last and still streaming a lot this year.
I don't even f*** with Taylor but, if you're gonna call that album a "flop", then 80% of albums this decade are flops by comparison.
- Sep 2, 2025·1 replyBobby_96
You mean the same album that was the best selling in the world last and still streaming a lot this year.
I don't even f*** with Taylor but, if you're gonna call that album a "flop", then 80% of albums this decade are flops by comparison.
https://www.ifpi.org/taylor-swift-makes-music-history-as-ifpis-biggest-selling-global-recording-artist-of-the-year-for-the-fifth-time/
This thread agreed a long time ago that longevity is a very important factor.
In any other industry, if you go from the absolute top of the game to being average (in the superstar world) just a year later, you're flopping.
Imagine if 2015 Ronaldo/Messi went from 50 goals a year, to 20 next year. That's what TTPD has done
- Sep 2, 2025·1 replyBig Dog
Nah ngl you have a mental problem. Its getting weird bro
He is a known Drake hater that tries to diminish everything he has ever done, nothing new
- Sep 2, 2025·1 replyTheFader
Drake stans told us that he’s been having a bigger year than Kendrick in the US and that Kendrick was getting boosted by radio
But Drake only has one single song on that entire list, and there’s three Kendrick songs above it
That’s all US streams only so what’s this excuse this time?
who said this
- Sep 2, 2025·edited·1 replyTheFader
I’ve been looking into the Top Streams charts published by HDD for each individual year this decade. I couldn’t find the lists for 2020, 2021, and 2024, but here are some interesting pieces of info about the artists we discuss every day in here:
- Highest Drake Lead Song in both years: Jimmy Cooks in 2022 (#15) - 293M
- The Weeknd Entries in 2022: Save Your Tears (#20) - 288M // Blinding Lights (#32) - 249M // Die For You (#40) - 236M
- Drake in 2022: WAIT FOR U (#3) - 452M // Jimmy Cooks (#15) - 293M // Knife Talk (#19) - 289M
- The Weeknd in 2023: Die For You (#5) - 460M // Creepin’ (#12) - 390M
- Drake in 2023: Rich Flex (#20) - 337M
- Didn’t find the full list for 2021, but the little preview blurb on HDD says that The Weeknd had at least one entry within the Top 10 for the year. No mention of Drake.
- Total Number of Songs Over 500M Per Year: 2022 - One (As It Was) // 2023 - Four (Last Night, Kill Bill, Flowers, Something in the Orange) // 2025 so far - One (luther)
So one, it’s extremely interesting that despite finishing the year #1 in streams annually, the most streams a Drake lead song has gotten in one calendar year this decade so far was Rich Flex with 337M. For context, there are a total of 15 songs this year that have already surpassed that mark. And the highest that a Drake song has finished was only at #15, in a year when he dropped two entire albums. I don’t think anything from CLB could’ve finished that high on the 2021 list since it was a late-year release.
Also, @mangotflu saying that the US has moved on from The Weeknd is simply untrue. Every single year of this decade, he’s had a song finish within at least the Top 20 in total streams in the US, even in years when he didn’t drop an album. I think his biggest commercial underperformance of the 2020s is easily Dawn FM, that didn’t have a single song wind up in the Top 50 of 2022. HUT at least has Timeless at #15 on the year for 2025.
And lastly, Kendrick was nowhere to be found on any of these lists, so the beef last year definitely reignited the mainstream’s overall interest in his music, I don’t think anyone ever denied that though. I have a feeling that family ties was somewhere on the list for 2021, but I can’t confirm that since I don’t have access to it
Looking at single units to see if people are interested in an artist is simply put r worded
Album units will always be the #1 metric to look at to see how many people are still into an artists music, and The Weeknd's have decreased a lot to a mid level with Starboy/AH being his peak by far. The trend started with Dawn FM not being what his US audience wanted, and it was always obvious to everyone except you. Then continued with HUT
and yeah no s*** Kendrick wasn't on the lists
he didn't release music except that terrible mr morale s*** that apparently wasn't meant to be commerical. Soon as he started again, he popped up, not really a surprise is it.. maybe you're very young but DAMN's era was a lot bigger than GNX's. - Sep 2, 2025mangotflu
He is a known Drake hater that tries to diminish everything he has ever done, nothing new
Not a Drake hater whatsoever. I’ve said multiple times he’s the biggest rapper of the 2010s, arguably of the 21st Century
- Sep 2, 2025mangotflu
who said this
Every delusional Drake stan on the internet
- Sep 2, 2025·edited·2 repliesmangotflu
Looking at single units to see if people are interested in an artist is simply put r worded
Album units will always be the #1 metric to look at to see how many people are still into an artists music, and The Weeknd's have decreased a lot to a mid level with Starboy/AH being his peak by far. The trend started with Dawn FM not being what his US audience wanted, and it was always obvious to everyone except you. Then continued with HUT
and yeah no s*** Kendrick wasn't on the lists
he didn't release music except that terrible mr morale s*** that apparently wasn't meant to be commerical. Soon as he started again, he popped up, not really a surprise is it.. maybe you're very young but DAMN's era was a lot bigger than GNX's.It’s not single units, it’s the streaming performance of all songs period. It doesn’t matter if a song was released as a single or not, it all streams the same in the streaming era. Radio is not a factor in these lists.
I quite literally said in my post that Dawn FM was his biggest commercial underperformance of the decade, can you read? You talk about HUT, yet the biggest song on there, Timeless, only has 24M less streams in the US this year than “worldwide hit” NOKIA. If HUT flopped then so did $$$4U.
DAMN. was not bigger than GNX you have absolutely lost your mind. DAMN. wasn’t boosted by a Super Bowl performance, stadium world tour, and a record that was #1 for 13 consecutive weeks. GNX is easily the bigger era and it’s not even particularly close. First week sales are just generally lower now so it only appears like DAMN. was the bigger era overall because it had higher first week sales. Kendrick had one song from DAMN. in the Top 10 of 2017. In 2025, he has TWO in the TOP 5… PLUS Not Like Us. Three of the Top 5 highest streamed songs in 2025 are Kendrick Lamar songs. It’s not even close.
The point I’m making is that these Drake sales are starting to look suspicious. #1 in streams every single year and his highest song didn’t even cross 375M in one year? That’s fishy
- Sep 2, 2025·3 replies
proper 🔩Sep 2, 2025DEL634Please adjust the title. Kpop Demons implies that they are demons (evil), while they are very clearly named Kpop demon HUNTERS (good). Running a smear campaign on one of the most promising new artists is honestly wack and I expect better.
Cc: @ghosting @666 @Nessy @proper
we the new saja boys..
- Sep 2, 2025·1 replyTheFader
It’s not single units, it’s the streaming performance of all songs period. It doesn’t matter if a song was released as a single or not, it all streams the same in the streaming era. Radio is not a factor in these lists.
I quite literally said in my post that Dawn FM was his biggest commercial underperformance of the decade, can you read? You talk about HUT, yet the biggest song on there, Timeless, only has 24M less streams in the US this year than “worldwide hit” NOKIA. If HUT flopped then so did $$$4U.
DAMN. was not bigger than GNX you have absolutely lost your mind. DAMN. wasn’t boosted by a Super Bowl performance, stadium world tour, and a record that was #1 for 13 consecutive weeks. GNX is easily the bigger era and it’s not even particularly close. First week sales are just generally lower now so it only appears like DAMN. was the bigger era overall because it had higher first week sales. Kendrick had one song from DAMN. in the Top 10 of 2017. In 2025, he has TWO in the TOP 5… PLUS Not Like Us. Three of the Top 5 highest streamed songs in 2025 are Kendrick Lamar songs. It’s not even close.
The point I’m making is that these Drake sales are starting to look suspicious. #1 in streams every single year and his highest song didn’t even cross 375M in one year? That’s fishy
Morgan Wallen's performance on your "top 50 songs" completely proves you wrong, his 2025 has been 5x- bigger than Kendrick's yet Kendrick has 3 songs above his on the list
- Sep 2, 2025·1 replyTheFader
It’s not single units, it’s the streaming performance of all songs period. It doesn’t matter if a song was released as a single or not, it all streams the same in the streaming era. Radio is not a factor in these lists.
I quite literally said in my post that Dawn FM was his biggest commercial underperformance of the decade, can you read? You talk about HUT, yet the biggest song on there, Timeless, only has 24M less streams in the US this year than “worldwide hit” NOKIA. If HUT flopped then so did $$$4U.
DAMN. was not bigger than GNX you have absolutely lost your mind. DAMN. wasn’t boosted by a Super Bowl performance, stadium world tour, and a record that was #1 for 13 consecutive weeks. GNX is easily the bigger era and it’s not even particularly close. First week sales are just generally lower now so it only appears like DAMN. was the bigger era overall because it had higher first week sales. Kendrick had one song from DAMN. in the Top 10 of 2017. In 2025, he has TWO in the TOP 5… PLUS Not Like Us. Three of the Top 5 highest streamed songs in 2025 are Kendrick Lamar songs. It’s not even close.
The point I’m making is that these Drake sales are starting to look suspicious. #1 in streams every single year and his highest song didn’t even cross 375M in one year? That’s fishy
The superbowl... which was announced before GNX?
The stadium tour.. which was planned before GNX came out?DAMN 8 months after release: 15th on BB200
GNX 8 months after release: 24th.12 months after release DAMN was still 20th
GNX is going to be out of the top 30 by then at this rate. DAMN was definitely more successful than GNX
- Sep 2, 2025·edited·1 replyTheFader
Top 50 Streamed Songs in the United States in 2025:
1. luther - 587M
2. Die With A Smile - 476M
3. Ordinary - 425M
4. Not Like Us - 412M
5. tv off - 405M
6. I’m the Problem - 404M
7. Lose Control - 387M
8. A Bar Song (Tipsy) - 384M
9. NOKIA - 375M
10. BIRDS OF A FEATHER - 372M
11. Pink Pony Club - 360M
12. Beautiful Things - 351M
13. No One Noticed - 347M
14. I Had Some Help - 343M
15. Timeless - 341M
16. Just in Case - 334M
17. Love Somebody - 329M
18. APT. - 329M
19. That’s So True - 325M
20. DTMF - 323M
21. squabble up - 292M
22. 30 for 30 - 287M
23. Espresso - 278M
24. Sailor Song - 274M
25. Who - 268M
26. Mutt - 267M
27. All the Stars - 266M
28. Good Luck, Babe! - 264M
29. WILDFLOWER - 263M
30. What I Want - 259M
31. Smile - 254M
32. Messy - 251M
33. Baile Inolvidable - 250M
34. All the Way - 249M
35. Sports car - 246M
36. Indigo - 245M
37. Too Sweet - 242M
38. Love Me Not - 236M
39. Dreams - 236M
40. I Never Lie - 236M
41. Taste - 233M
42. Worst Way - 232M
43. Snooze - 230M
44. Last Night - 227M
45. Something in the Orange - 225M
46. I Remember Everything - 225M
47. Sticky - 220M
48. Back to Friends - 217M
49. Cowgirls - 215M
50. Nuevayol - 212MMost Entries:
Morgan Wallen - 8
Kendrick Lamar - 6
Bad Bunny - 3This should show you how little single performance means now
3 songs in the top 5 this year
His album thats only 9 months old is selling less than 20k a week. America has moved on from singles. One Thing At a Time will outstream GNX by the end of this year. there's 1 song from that album on that top 50. at 44th. lol
666 💢Sep 2, 2025DEL634Please adjust the title. Kpop Demons implies that they are demons (evil), while they are very clearly named Kpop demon HUNTERS (good). Running a smear campaign on one of the most promising new artists is honestly wack and I expect better.
Cc: @ghosting @666 @Nessy @proper
We demand justice!!!!!! Change this NOW!!!!!
ghosting 🔫Sep 2, 2025DEL634Please adjust the title. Kpop Demons implies that they are demons (evil), while they are very clearly named Kpop demon HUNTERS (good). Running a smear campaign on one of the most promising new artists is honestly wack and I expect better.
Cc: @ghosting @666 @Nessy @proper
fact smh
- Sep 2, 2025·1 replymangotflu
The superbowl... which was announced before GNX?
The stadium tour.. which was planned before GNX came out?DAMN 8 months after release: 15th on BB200
GNX 8 months after release: 24th.12 months after release DAMN was still 20th
GNX is going to be out of the top 30 by then at this rate. DAMN was definitely more successful than GNX
The Super Bowl was still used to promote GNX as he mostly performed songs from it.
I promise you that stadium tour would’ve been downsized or straight up cancelled if GNX flopped for whatever reason.
Chart position on its own is not the data point than you think it is. Also, you the same person that called TTPD a massive flop, and that album was #1 eight months after it released, you shift the goalpost every day depending on your argument
There is no world in which DAMN. was more successful than GNX, you sound crazy
