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  • Sep 27, 2025
    Mafia Boss

    scarlet did like 65k streaming units this could do half that.

    First week streams have been down across the board for pretty much everyone this year. Besides going from 70K to 35-40K isn’t really that big of a deal for an artist who still doesn’t have a #1 album.

    Commercial performance must be viewed contextually

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    thegreatdivine

    He's echoing the same sentiments Fader Man echoed when Travis Scott was selling $5 Utopia vinyls to boost his numbers for 4 weeks and trying to pass it off like it was some huge favor to real fans when many of them came online and spoke on how they never even got their vinyls delivered but yet they counted towards Travis' numbers simply because they were shipped

    I said it back then and I’ll say it again: artists discounting physical sales should never be demonized regardless of the intention.

    We live in a time where most people can’t even afford to afford basic necessities without stress. If an artist wants to make a vinyl record $5, who genuinely gives a f***.

    Y’all niggas too caught up in this stan wars bullshit all the time

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    Mafia Boss

    yea it could be over for her

    https://twitter.com/behzad_hudson/status/1971939126699278765

    She'll be fine because she's an arena act now and her tour for this album should do well so making money shouldn't be an issue. She could still score a hit/hits off the album. I just wouldn't expect them to be as big as anything from her 2020-2023 run.

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    TheFader

    I said it back then and I’ll say it again: artists discounting physical sales should never be demonized regardless of the intention.

    We live in a time where most people can’t even afford to afford basic necessities without stress. If an artist wants to make a vinyl record $5, who genuinely gives a f***.

    Y’all niggas too caught up in this stan wars bullshit all the time

    No one’s saying its an evil thing. Yes it’s great for broke boys. But coming in here and celebrating numbers IGNORING what was done and for what intention, is stupid af.

  • Sep 27, 2025
    TheFader

    I said it back then and I’ll say it again: artists discounting physical sales should never be demonized regardless of the intention.

    We live in a time where most people can’t even afford to afford basic necessities without stress. If an artist wants to make a vinyl record $5, who genuinely gives a f***.

    Y’all niggas too caught up in this stan wars bullshit all the time

    Everybody at those meet and greets already bought the album You had to buy it to be there in the first place

  • Sep 27, 2025
    TheFader

    I said it back then and I’ll say it again: artists discounting physical sales should never be demonized regardless of the intention.

    We live in a time where most people can’t even afford to afford basic necessities without stress. If an artist wants to make a vinyl record $5, who genuinely gives a f***.

    Y’all niggas too caught up in this stan wars bullshit all the time

    I think its fine outside of charts/stan wars. nobody cares irl or at all really but for charts/stan wars its funny to bring up.

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    Big Dog

    No one’s saying its an evil thing. Yes it’s great for broke boys. But coming in here and celebrating numbers IGNORING what was done and for what intention, is stupid af.

    It's not a "great thing" for anybody lol. Most people who own physicals (vinyls, CDs, cassettes) don't actually play them. Vinyls function more like collection items/art pieces now than music one would actually listen to. That's always been why I have an issue with their consumption counting on the charts, especially since streaming took off and became the primary way people consume their music.

    Back when digital sales first became a thing, we didn't have streaming so when you bought that single on iTunes, you played that s*** as much as possible. More than 50% of people who buy vinyls now don't actually own any vinyl players to play them on so the whole thing is one huge scam artists run mostly and only to boost their numbers. That's why the numbers they do from physicals are never sustainable in the first place.

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    thegreatdivine

    It's not a "great thing" for anybody lol. Most people who own physicals (vinyls, CDs, cassettes) don't actually play them. Vinyls function more like collection items/art pieces now than music one would actually listen to. That's always been why I have an issue with their consumption counting on the charts, especially since streaming took off and became the primary way people consume their music.

    Back when digital sales first became a thing, we didn't have streaming so when you bought that single on iTunes, you played that s*** as much as possible. More than 50% of people who buy vinyls now don't actually own any vinyl players to play them on so the whole thing is one huge scam artists run mostly and only to boost their numbers. That's why the numbers they do from physicals are never sustainable in the first place.

    I wonder if blank vinyls would count for B200. As long as packaging right 🤔

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    TheFader

    I said it back then and I’ll say it again: artists discounting physical sales should never be demonized regardless of the intention.

    We live in a time where most people can’t even afford to afford basic necessities without stress. If an artist wants to make a vinyl record $5, who genuinely gives a f***.

    Y’all niggas too caught up in this stan wars bullshit all the time

    thoughts? same cd version except the picture on the inside is different.

  • Sep 27, 2025
    Big Dog

    No one’s saying its an evil thing. Yes it’s great for broke boys. But coming in here and celebrating numbers IGNORING what was done and for what intention, is stupid af.

    If me and you release an album right now for 10 cents it’s still going triple cardboard

    A discount isn’t an automatic purchase, niggas still gotta buy the s***

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    S***ting on physicals just because you want to dunk on opposing stanbases online

    It gets to a point where there's just no words

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    Mafia Boss

    thoughts? same cd version except the picture on the inside is different.

    https://twitter.com/leaks_aboutpop/status/1971666831758004268

    Variants =/= discounts

    I’m solely talking about when an artist offers discounts on their physical copies.

    What I’m saying is it doesn’t matter if their intention is to boost their sales or if it’s genuine, because EVERYTHING is too expensive nowadays so I’m not gonna sit here and demonize an artist for lowering the price of something.

    A discount does not mean an automatic purchase so that’s why the sales still matter. A small artist could drop a vinyl for $2 and they still wouldn’t clear 100K first week because they’re not that popular. Y’all saying the sales don’t count if discounts are involved is crazy because nobody is forced to buy any of this s***.

    I’m not mad at Cardi for employing various physical tactics; that’s just the way of the game nowadays.

  • Sep 27, 2025
    deleteduser579

    S***ting on physicals just because you want to dunk on opposing stanbases online

    It gets to a point where there's just no words

    Physical albums will literally always be more important than streaming and idc how much these freak losers online try to act like that isn’t the case.

    Apple Music and Spotify WILL cease to exist one day. My 400+ vinyl collection will not.

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    Mafia Boss

    thoughts? same cd version except the picture on the inside is different.

    https://twitter.com/leaks_aboutpop/status/1971666831758004268

    Same album with the same exact songs but because the have different "covers" they all count and she can make as many variants as possible, give them ridiculous names and have them all count despite them having the exact same number of songs on them but someone will tell you that's being done "for the fans" and not simply to inflate first-week numbers lmao.

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    TheFader

    Variants =/= discounts

    I’m solely talking about when an artist offers discounts on their physical copies.

    What I’m saying is it doesn’t matter if their intention is to boost their sales or if it’s genuine, because EVERYTHING is too expensive nowadays so I’m not gonna sit here and demonize an artist for lowering the price of something.

    A discount does not mean an automatic purchase so that’s why the sales still matter. A small artist could drop a vinyl for $2 and they still wouldn’t clear 100K first week because they’re not that popular. Y’all saying the sales don’t count if discounts are involved is crazy because nobody is forced to buy any of this s***.

    I’m not mad at Cardi for employing various physical tactics; that’s just the way of the game nowadays.

    yea discounts idc about especially cause there are minimum prices now (which are too high)

    $5 vinyl and free shipping what travis did is a bit extreme though. It was tempting to get one 😂

    Thoughts on what taylor soing though?

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    thegreatdivine

    Same album with the same exact songs but because the have different "covers" they all count and she can make as many variants as possible, give them ridiculous names and have them all count despite them having the exact same number of songs on them but someone will tell you that's being done "for the fans" and not simply to inflate first-week numbers lmao.

    This not even different covers its the photo inside 😭😭

  • Sep 27, 2025

    #1 albums are just marketing ploy and ego boosts nowadays, they mean no more than NY Times best sellers.

    Interested in seeing how the tour does.

  • Sep 27, 2025
    Blue Man

    Nigga who

    Aren’t you a cac?

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    Mafia Boss

    I wonder if blank vinyls would count for B200. As long as packaging right 🤔

    the equivalent of that is all of these first edition s***s without all the songs

  • Sep 27, 2025
    DiamondsFlooded

    the equivalent of that is all of these first edition s***s without all the songs

    Yea cause basically right now u can just put anything u want song wise on the vinyl 😭

    C6 might be worst ive seen where its 6 songs from album and 3 vinyl exclusives

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    Interesting article

    1. Die With A Smile
    2. BIRDS OF A FEATHER
    3. Espresso
    4. As It Was
    5. APT.
    6. Stay
    7. Who
    8. Beautiful Things
    9. Flowers
    10. Blinding Lights
    11. Die For You
    12. Seven
    13. Cruel Summer
    14. Kill Bill
    15. Please Please Please
    16. Not Like Us
    17. Good Luck, Babe!
    18. Gata Only
    19. greedy
    20. Heat Waves
    21. INDUSTRY BABY
    22. good 4 u
    23. Too Sweet
    24. That’s So True
    25. Bzrp. Music Sessions, Vol. 52
    26. Me Porto Bonito
    27. Save Your Tears
    28. Unholy
    29. MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name)
    30. Lose Control

    Runner-Ups:

    • End of Beginning
    • Si Antes Te Hubiera Conocido
    • we can't be friends (wait for your love)
    • One Of The Girls
    • Levitating

    Shouldn’t be any surprise what the highest rap song on here is

  • Sep 27, 2025
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    Re: Headlines & One Dance reaching new peaks on Spotify

    It’s interesting that they’re nowhere to be found on the Hot 100 right now though, wonder what that’s about

  • Sep 27, 2025

    Tate truthers won

  • Sep 27, 2025

    Embeds broke?

  • Sep 27, 2025

    Just seeing this. This is VERY bad. Wow.

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