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  • Oct 23, 2025
    Free YoungBoy

    Correction, he’s credited on most of the songs on take care and NWTS.

    Yall are pretty much Kanye stans at this point.

    If he’s willing to take every other type of song from his ghost writers but this one style of song he’s above having written for him? Doesn’t even make sense

    How are they ghostwriters if they're credited for their contributions? 🤔

  • Oct 23, 2025
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    Free YoungBoy

    Jumbotron s*** poppin is also a song I would view as a pure rapping song. Even down to the name

    Yeah, you would definitely think it's a bar heavy song

  • Free YoungBoy

    Jumbotron s*** poppin is also a song I would view as a pure rapping song. Even down to the name

    Even stooped so low to get writing on a feature verse (RICO) but the bar heavy songs are too sacred lol

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    Niggas can refer to the credits on Drake's albums to guess who contributed to his music because he's never hidden that but those same people will swear to you that he uses ghostwriters and name the credited co-writers as ghostwriters

  • Oct 23, 2025
    TheFader

    Mainstream rap in 2025… just wow, I have no other words

    https://twitter.com/hiphopalldayy/status/1981170835734851678

    …Flashing Lights got 908k streams yesterday. Wtf

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    thegreatdivine

    Niggas can refer to the credits on Drake's albums to guess who contributed to his music because he's never hidden that but those same people will swear to you that he uses ghostwriters and name the credited co-writers as ghostwriters

    The point is that a rapper as prominent and highly touted as him having co-writers so frequently at all is absurd

    You can’t go through Kendrick or Cole’s discography and see co-writers (that aren’t just the names of the producers) littered throughout their songs like you can with Drake

  • TheFader

    The point is that a rapper as prominent and highly touted as him having co-writers so frequently at all is absurd

    You can’t go through Kendrick or Cole’s discography and see co-writers (that aren’t just the names of the producers) littered throughout their songs like you can with Drake

    And then they’ll cite his “versatility” for why he’s the GOAT when he’s getting spoonfed songs lol

    Hotline Bling wasn’t even an original cut

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    thegreatdivine

    Yeah, you would definitely think it's a bar heavy song

    It’s pure rap. Yeah it’s a fun song but he’s popping his s*** on there. Just because it’s not a 90s type beat doesn’t mean it’s not a rap song.

    What do you think Jumbotron s*** popping means?

    He’s talking his s*** on there

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    Free YoungBoy

    It’s pure rap. Yeah it’s a fun song but he’s popping his s*** on there. Just because it’s not a 90s type beat doesn’t mean it’s not a rap song.

    What do you think Jumbotron s*** popping means?

    He’s talking his s*** on there

    I never said it wasn't a rap song. It clearly is. It's a melodic rap song. It isn't a bar-heavy song, though. That was my point. And Drake also co-wrote song lines on that song as well.

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    TheFader

    The point is that a rapper as prominent and highly touted as him having co-writers so frequently at all is absurd

    You can’t go through Kendrick or Cole’s discography and see co-writers (that aren’t just the names of the producers) littered throughout their songs like you can with Drake

    Generally, I really couldn't care less if an artist has transparent credits to other writers in the name of making good music.

    But the bottom line is that you can't s*** on all these other guys and be touted as the best rapper ever if this is the case. I'm sure some people scoff at this in the big 2025, but rap was built on who can come up with best lyrics/flows and showcase it, not showcasing how well you can use someone else's.

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    Whenever y'all wanna have a discussion about the dire state of mainstream rap as it pertains to the lack of a new generation of rap artists who can carry the torch the way past icons have done, please tag me ✌️

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    thegreatdivine

    I never said it wasn't a rap song. It clearly is. It's a melodic rap song. It isn't a bar-heavy song, though. That was my point. And Drake also co-wrote song lines on that song as well.

    It’s not really melodic, and “co-writing” a few lines lol

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    Neeko

    Generally, I really couldn't care less if an artist has transparent credits to other writers in the name of making good music.

    But the bottom line is that you can't s*** on all these other guys and be touted as the best rapper ever if this is the case. I'm sure some people scoff at this in the big 2025, but rap was built on who can come up with best lyrics/flows and showcase it, not showcasing how well you can use someone else's.

    But he can, though. And he talks his s*** BECAUSE he can write and has one of the best pens in the game. This is something even niggas he has beefed with have admitted to. If his peers had such a disrespect for his pen, they wouldn't bother to jump into rap battles against him or spend years trading subliminals with him lol.

    Drake got his start in the industry as a songwriter for other rappers. Back then, he formed a group where Melanie Fiona was the singer, he wrote the lyrics she sang and D10 (who tours with him till now as an instrumentalist) would produce and play instruments on their songs. It was a short-lived group because Melanie Fiona's career eventually took off but he's very established as a songwriter. That's something no one can ever take away from him and I think it annoys some of you because he has never been insecure about his songwriting ability.

    Look, man, you can dislike that he's ever used co-writers (and you have a right to that as a fan of rap music, I guess) but that doesn't magically take away from the fact that he does have an elite pen, has written entire songs for other artists and has written hundreds of songs by himself lol.

    Drake has written songs for Lil Wayne before but I'll be the first to smack anyone who tries to question Wayne as a rapper because of that s***.

    I'd love to have an extensive discussion about this someday but I'll just say this: the fact of the matter is that as fans, we really don't know what goes on in those studio sessions. We don't know who is contributing exactly what. Song credits help, yes, but they don't always tell the whole story.

  • Gosh 😹
    Oct 23, 2025

    Divine GPT at it again

  • Oct 23, 2025
    Free YoungBoy

    It’s not really melodic, and “co-writing” a few lines lol

    !https://youtu.be/Gbj3My2_6UY?si=jutr0SYoShurEzs5

    Anyone with ears can tell that's a melodic rap song but you're free to think otherwise.

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    Streets is done 💔

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    thegreatdivine

    But he can, though. And he talks his s*** BECAUSE he can write and has one of the best pens in the game. This is something even niggas he has beefed with have admitted to. If his peers had such a disrespect for his pen, they wouldn't bother to jump into rap battles against him or spend years trading subliminals with him lol.

    Drake got his start in the industry as a songwriter for other rappers. Back then, he formed a group where Melanie Fiona was the singer, he wrote the lyrics she sang and D10 (who tours with him till now as an instrumentalist) would produce and play instruments on their songs. It was a short-lived group because Melanie Fiona's career eventually took off but he's very established as a songwriter. That's something no one can ever take away from him and I think it annoys some of you because he has never been insecure about his songwriting ability.

    Look, man, you can dislike that he's ever used co-writers (and you have a right to that as a fan of rap music, I guess) but that doesn't magically take away from the fact that he does have an elite pen, has written entire songs for other artists and has written hundreds of songs by himself lol.

    Drake has written songs for Lil Wayne before but I'll be the first to smack anyone who tries to question Wayne as a rapper because of that s***.

    I'd love to have an extensive discussion about this someday but I'll just say this: the fact of the matter is that as fans, we really don't know what goes on in those studio sessions. We don't know who is contributing exactly what. Song credits help, yes, but they don't always tell the whole story.

    “This is something even niggas he has beefed with have admitted to”

    lol only Kanye. Kendrick just beefed with him and disrespected his pen.

    “It’s a 1v20 if I gotta smack the niggas that write with you”

    “You lied about your ghostwriters”

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    Free YoungBoy

    “This is something even niggas he has beefed with have admitted to”

    lol only Kanye. Kendrick just beefed with him and disrespected his pen.

    “It’s a 1v20 if I gotta smack the niggas that write with you”

    “You lied about your ghostwriters”

    Well, Kendrick also said Drake lied about his daughter and we all know that like the supposed ghostwriters Drake doesn't have, he also doesn't have a daughter.

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    thegreatdivine

    Well, Kendrick also said Drake lied about his daughter and we all know that like the supposed ghostwriters Drake doesn't have, he also doesn't have a daughter.

    He has twins

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    “It was written like Nas but it came from Quentin”

    “How could you ever write these wrong? You don’t even write your songs”

    “Tell us who Quentin was running through the 6 with (plays reference track)”

    “Crack smoke is the exhaust from my pen and pad
    Ghostwriters, they get to floss what you could've had”

    Every beef someone has disrespected his pen. Where are you getting that people beef with him because they have this huge respect for his pen? They beef because he’s always talking trash

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
    Oct 23, 2025
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    yall aint never gon take drake out yall mouth bra

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    “Damn, creators turned impersonators
    You got a whole ghost writer handing you the paper
    What happened to the rap game built off of greatness
    Now-a-days this s*** built off of fakeness”

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
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    thegreatdivine

    Streets is done 💔

    https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1981400432602993052https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1981398989594644949

    that weak ass cover from DDG he deserve it

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