Is Drake’s songwriting not a musical Element?
Kanye hears Drake’s songs and wants that writing in his, so he calls him up more than once to write and structure for him
You can pretend like that’s not influence if you want but we all see through your hurt
Like I said if we're gonna name every artist that had a couple little writing credits on Ye's discog we'd never see the end of it
Drake isn't a major influence on Ye's artistry and we all know it
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Artists like who ? Kendrick has no off springs or relevant artists that mimic his formula
Name 1 wave or trend Kendrick has popularized ? Imo he’s literally another lyricist using sounds, styles & formulas that were prevenlent in the music industry
He’s just another Nas and Andre
Like I said, he hasnt influenced popular artists, but the industry isnt made of only popular artists. Acts like jid, saba, Joey, paak, rhapsody, baby keem are some of the rappers directly influenced by kendrick, and some of this are artists with a solid fanbase. Of course he aint influencing acts like Lil baby, gunna and lil nas x, he doesn't make that type of music that can easily be replicated. Like I also said earlier, his influence will be even more notable in the 2020s
Like I said if we're gonna name every artist that had a couple little writing credits on Ye's discog we'd never see the end of it
Drake isn't a major influence on Ye's artistry and we all know it
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—> calls him more than 2 times to write
—> little writing credits
You’re hurt Ye could call up someone you don’t praise for help
I see that you are new to this music s*** so let me explain. When we talk about musical influence we mean implementing one or more elements by the said influence that can literally be found in their body of work, into your own work. You're just being a d***rider, it'll pass.
You literally just changed the literal definition of influence to fit your narrative so you can be right
Just put your pride aside and admit your wrong
Kanye & Drake have both influenced each other directly and indirectly
You can’t rewrite history
—> calls him more than 2 times to write
—> little writing credits
You’re hurt Ye could call up someone you don’t praise for help
Whatever helps you sleep at night
You literally just changed the literal definition of influence to fit your narrative so you can be right
Just put your pride aside and admit your wrong
Kanye & Drake have both influenced each other directly and indirectly
You can’t rewrite history
Kanye literally stated Drake was the reason he made watch the throne
The definition of influence states, “ the capacity to have an effect on the character, development or behavior of someone “
Kanye felt the need to make a full fledged collaboration with Jay Z just to rival Drake’s success with Take Care
What does that tell you ? Drake influenced Kanye
Where talking about influence musically. You’re bringing up kanye and Hov making an album for the sake of competition. Both 40 and Drake have Admitted to running with Kanye’s sound. The latter going as far as to admit he wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Kanye
You literally just changed the literal definition of influence to fit your narrative so you can be right
Just put your pride aside and admit your wrong
Kanye & Drake have both influenced each other directly and indirectly
You can’t rewrite history
Alright then, you are entitled to think this.
30 hours, FSMH & Kanye flat out stated Drake is one of his biggest rivals and influences currently
He helped write the verses of those songs, he didn't influence them. I don't see how drake Influenced those two songs in any other way. What Kanye stated doesn't necessarily apply to music, cause I don't see drake's influence anywhere in kanye's discography.
Like I said, he hasnt influenced popular artists, but the industry isnt made of only popular artists. Acts like jid, saba, Joey, paak, rhapsody, baby keem are some of the rappers directly influenced by kendrick, and some of this are artists with a solid fanbase. Of course he aint influencing acts like Lil baby, gunna and lil nas x, he doesn't make that type of music that can easily be replicated. Like I also said earlier, his influence will be even more notable in the 2020s
I’m sure he did influence them but yet again those artists follow formulas that have been prevelent in rap
Excluding Baby Keem most of the artists you mention would still be on the same trajectory if Kendrick didn’t exist
But hey that’s just my opinion just like you have yours
Except Drake was involved in the creation as well as the creative process of FSMH
You sound a lil salty moving the goal post
If drake really influenced fsmh and 30 hours, he wouldn't have released the mid that views was. Also, I've never listened to a song that's anything like 30 hours or fsmh in drake's discography
Where talking about influence musically. You’re bringing up kanye and Hov making an album for the sake of competition. Both 40 and Drake have Admitted to running with Kanye’s sound. The latter going as far as to admit he wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Kanye
And Kanye wanted an entire song on TLOP to sound like a Drake song
Influence
—> calls him more than 2 times to write
—> little writing credits
You’re hurt Ye could call up someone you don’t praise for help
He was like one of 5 writers on each song kid. If we’re talking influence let’s talk about how 40 said he ran w Kanye’s sound or Drake saying during views era he wouldn’t even be making music if it wasn’t for Kanye
He was like one of 5 writers on each song kid. If we’re talking influence let’s talk about how 40 said he ran w Kanye’s sound or Drake saying during views era he wouldn’t even be making music if it wasn’t for Kanye
WTT wouldn’t have been made without Drake
See how this works??
If drake really influenced fsmh and 30 hours, he wouldn't have released the mid that views was. Also, I've never listened to a song that's anything like 30 hours or fsmh in drake's discography
Views has better songs than those two tho
WTT wouldn’t have been made without Drake
See how this works??
Making an album for competitions sake =\= being influenced musically.
Also Wayne and Jay were also involved in WTT by that logic
“And I got a bigger pool than Ye”
Made Kanye move out the neighborhood
But Drake has no influence on Kanye West
“And I got a bigger pool than Ye”
Made Kanye move out the neighborhood
But Drake has no influence on Kanye West
Kanye still lives there fool. He has 300 acres in calabasas
U gotta be an idiot to think he’s actually scared of Drake
Where talking about influence musically. You’re bringing up kanye and Hov making an album for the sake of competition. Both 40 and Drake have Admitted to running with Kanye’s sound. The latter going as far as to admit he wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Kanye
Except 40 + Drake’s sound is neo R&B
Ye was recreating 80s synth pop & even called it pop art with 808s
Drake has cited Ye as one of his biggest influencers yes but he’d still be here if Ye never created 808s
Brand New leaked in 2007, Drake’s vulnerable, R&B formula was already in effect before 808s was even thought of
Kanye deserved some credit but if we’re being real it’s mostly R&B artists like Aaliyah we should be crediting for the OVO sound
Idk if you’re African American or grew up with old school R&B lol
I’m sure he did influence them but yet again those artists follow formulas that have been prevelent in rap
Excluding Baby Keem most of the artists you mention would still be on the same trajectory if Kendrick didn’t exist
But hey that’s just my opinion just like you have yours
So you're saying that the only influential rappers are rakim and grandmaster flash because they started the rap formula that artist use today?
Also, if those artists weren't influenced by kendrick, their music would be different, and maybe they wouldn't have gotten the fanbase that they got.
Y'all just scraping the barrel tryna find reasons to deny kendrick's influence at this point
Kanye still lives there fool. He has 300 acres in calabasas
U gotta be an idiot to think he’s actually scared of Drake
No one said he was scared
It f***ed with his mental
So he went to Wyoming to make albums
Except 40 + Drake’s sound is neo R&B
Ye was recreating 80s synth pop & even called it pop art with 808s
Drake has cited Ye as one of his biggest influencers yes but he’d still be here if Ye never created 808s
Brand New leaked in 2007, Drake’s vulnerable, R&B formula was already in effect before 808s was even thought of
Kanye deserved some credit but if we’re being real it’s mostly R&B artists like Aaliyah we should be crediting for the OVO sound
Idk if you’re African American or grew up with old school R&B lol
I’m just going by what Drake and 40 have said themselves. F*** whatever you’re talking about
No one said he was scared
It f***ed with his mental
So he went to Wyoming to make albums
He went to Wyoming because it’s a beautiful place and property can be bought dirt cheap compared to California
Except 40 + Drake’s sound is neo R&B
Ye was recreating 80s synth pop & even called it pop art with 808s
Drake has cited Ye as one of his biggest influencers yes but he’d still be here if Ye never created 808s
Brand New leaked in 2007, Drake’s vulnerable, R&B formula was already in effect before 808s was even thought of
Kanye deserved some credit but if we’re being real it’s mostly R&B artists like Aaliyah we should be crediting for the OVO sound
Idk if you’re African American or grew up with old school R&B lol
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