Kanye or Drake last albums messages weren't particularly dense or complex tho

This too, Tupac was the main element of TPAB, he can’t run on that forever

don’t understand how niggas could get worked up over niggas talking just go to a diff thread

like if this was a sales thread it would make sense but how you expect niggas not to discuss politics on a thread title that starts with “kendrick’s misconception of social change”

that line was 100% towards himself

Kendrick does take part in community initiatives, probably do better to focus solely on that than aspirations of changing the world.

To be completely fair, yall talk about capitalism/communism and all the other "-isms" A LOT. Almost in every other thread and I think people get tired of it with all due respect

The thread is LITERALLY ABOUT THAT Lmaoo

OP great post.

Your last paragraph and how he decided to choose himself over the world - as if those were the only choices - made me think of his “I am all of you” post. Hearing the album and now reading this post from you makes that statement look really funny in the light.

In the case that his statement “I am all of you” were true, why would he ever have to make the choice between himself and the world

I think Kendrick and Cole are very distant from Kanye in terms of their views on social change.

Both aren't very similar themselves imo but especially not Kanye, thats my perception tho.

ik but I actually fw this thread

i don’t wanna sound like an ass, but there’s no way it’s directed towards anyone but himself

feels like such a clap at himself

Fantastic a***ysis @op, glad you ended up posting it just gave it a read in the airport and about to spin MMBS back with some of your thoughts in mind.

I empathize with Kendrick to a degree. He came up as a kid and blew up so far so fast from Section.80 to GKMC. I can’t imagine having all that weight all of a sudden and millions looking to you like a savior and reckoning with the fact that you brought it on yourself, THEN reckoning with perceived failure. His life has been a whirlwind and I can’t blame him for wanting to take a step back and remove the pressure. Hell, I envy that, and I don’t have even a fraction of the platform he’s had. But especially in the social media age it can feel like silence is regression, and doing what’s best for yourself and your loved ones can feel like a betrayal of those you feel you could’ve helped by breaking that bread. It’s wildly hard to strike that balance and I hope this album release is cathartic to Kendrick as he finds his own balance.

Got me wanting to go long on this too now and thats the sign of a good post

Noname really had two A-List rappers in shambles that’s crazy

Really good point about the need for MATERIAL conditions to improve. All these ppl got ideas, but it’s more than that

@op really good write up

here's a thought I had whilst reading it:

what happened to the interview where he talked about black people having to respect eachother more before asking police to respect us (Im paraphrasing but that was the sentiment)

he got backlash for that and I personally think he didn't learn anything from it since, TPAB has several lines where he suggests indiviluasm as the solution to systemic issues

idk how much he cares for that topic if being challenged on it once or twice makes him retreat, I think that's the dissapointing part for me (especially considering that this is HIP HOP)

no one was looking to him to be a savior, maybe people just react to the marketing/praise TPAB got due to some of it's content and thought he was a little more motivated than his peers to adress racism

on DAMN there's a line on the song ELEMENT:

" Last LP I tried to lift the black artists
But it's a difference between black artists and wack artists "

so yeah, he really been over it for a while now but still wants to give his opinions on s*** for instance

"on wordlwide steppers",

he was still "preachy" telling people what he thinks is wrong with them (take of your this and that, go listen to the song tbh )

then ending the song with

" Eight billion people on Earth, silent murderers
...
The noble person that goes to work and pray like they 'posed to?
Slaughter people too, your murder's just a bit slower "

idk what he means by that line but he seems to just hate people now

yes kdot it's the "noble person who goes to work" that is killing people now...... yuck

touche

She does AMAZING work, which is why it's crazy it seems the entire rap world, a world full of abusers, pushers, dealers, rapists, and the glorification of all of this s***, jumped on Noname for one tweet versus niggas that got legit rape cases on them where the rape kit was confirmed including bite marks AND they plead guilty to em.

Built this country for $0 aint that crazy

Wym he put in the music

I think that Kendrick is realizing that he needs to get his house in order first, he's not resigning from playing a meaningful part in society altogether

I think 98% of us know that but there's not much we can do about it 😕

"Everyone should be a part of the good life. No more of this class system. You know, I was talking to Jared Kushner before they left office, and he was, like, “We are running a third of the land in America,” and I was, like, “But what are you doing with it?” It’s set up in a way that the Black community will never rise. People are just selling us d**** and selling us bad food, and media, and hate, and people are just not as happy as we could and will be. We are under capitalist rule, and it’s killing us.

It's time to change that."

Does that sound like your everyday black conservative evangelical lol? It doesn't absolve him for his awful takes but he is absolutely is incoherent ideologically

Mf goes from preaching liberation theology to prosperity gospel in the same sentence lmfao

hmm

Damn didnt kno he said that
Confused guy

Cookies just dislikes me personally

One sided beefs u hate to see it!!