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    Exactly I oddly find myself wishing it was a full 3-4 hours and got to explore more than a greatest hits of previous themes but their love was much better developed . Did characters develop. ? It becomes how can you develop after death more than accepting you are back alive again in some Frankenstein like way

  • Jan 2, 2022

    That’s a fair well worded review

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    Carefully worded thoughts, i cannot but respect

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    Aight

    Oh you want a return to the roots, a real cyberpunk movie? Yh this movie wasn't made for bros like you....

    That's a girl and even when we disagree on certain aspects we still f*** with her opinions ITT chill out lol

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    Damn this pretty much sums up everything. There's so much good here but like you said there's potential for a lot more. I do partially wonder if COVID effected filming in any way tbh and if that factored into visual aspects like locations, sets etc.

  • Jan 2, 2022

    Dune>>>

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    hey i’m more active in spoiler thread but yeah i feel pretty much the same way the split focus left it’s two halves feeling a little tonally dissonant. if i had my druthers we’d have two shorter movies, one about waking up neo, and one about waking up trinity. i feel like we have so much that we can still learn about her and i think she could’ve carried her own installment. this would also mitigate the expository shortcomings of all of niobe’s and saati’s scenes. i like what we got but there’s def a little too much story for one film

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    still not convinced about denis doing it tho, i think lana and lilly have a lot more left in the tank

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    I wished Denis made every movie tbh because he’s clearly the goat

  • Jan 2, 2022

    Well yeah there was 6 test screenings was originally like 30 more minutes

  • Jan 2, 2022
    AKFresh

    I wished Denis made every movie tbh because he’s clearly the goat

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    Mark Moschino

    hey i’m more active in spoiler thread but yeah i feel pretty much the same way the split focus left it’s two halves feeling a little tonally dissonant. if i had my druthers we’d have two shorter movies, one about waking up neo, and one about waking up trinity. i feel like we have so much that we can still learn about her and i think she could’ve carried her own installment. this would also mitigate the expository shortcomings of all of niobe’s and saati’s scenes. i like what we got but there’s def a little too much story for one film

    Neo is a completed character Trinity however if we had 30 minutes where we see her with family and what she been on in years/ playing the game . The problem I have with the Niobe io parts is not that they don’t have value but that information could be revealed in a better way and faster . They really give io parts nearly too much time to breathe

  • Jan 2, 2022
    SegaDreamFlash

    Damn this pretty much sums up everything. There's so much good here but like you said there's potential for a lot more. I do partially wonder if COVID effected filming in any way tbh and if that factored into visual aspects like locations, sets etc.

    Covid did

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    Neo is a completed character Trinity however if we had 30 minutes where we see her with family and what she been on in years/ playing the game . The problem I have with the Niobe io parts is not that they don’t have value but that information could be revealed in a better way and faster . They really give io parts nearly too much time to breathe

    yeah but i guess i mean more that trinity could be a complicated character, you feel me? idk if i was unclear but i agree about io and niobe i just think that much information would’ve been more compelling sprinkled out a little more carefully. that’s what i met by expository shortcoming cause as it is right now it’s a very mechanical section of the film needed to make the whole thing run

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    yeah but i guess i mean more that trinity could be a complicated character, you feel me? idk if i was unclear but i agree about io and niobe i just think that much information would’ve been more compelling sprinkled out a little more carefully. that’s what i met by expository shortcoming cause as it is right now it’s a very mechanical section of the film needed to make the whole thing run

    The story revolves around Neo so much that it does feel like it’s unreal or in a game or too good to be true and with an ending like that how would we ever know

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    HaroldsChicken

    The story revolves around Neo so much that it does feel like it’s unreal or in a game or too good to be true and with an ending like that how would we ever know

    that’s real, my point was more that trinity gets elevated in the series to being a “one” so i felt like that would’ve been earned more if we had some fleshed out sections with her. even 30 mins more like you suggested would be nice

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    Mark Moschino

    that’s real, my point was more that trinity gets elevated in the series to being a “one” so i felt like that would’ve been earned more if we had some fleshed out sections with her. even 30 mins more like you suggested would be nice

    All it would take was when he unplugs we change to a day in the life of trinity at the same exact start time as neo then compare. What meta things or flash backs get her there

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    HaroldsChicken

    All it would take was when he unplugs we change to a day in the life of trinity at the same exact start time as neo then compare. What meta things or flash backs get her there

    yeah that would be sick actually. all this talk just makes me wish for a directors cut. tho part of the reason i have so much respect for the wachowski sisters is that they don’t do that

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    Mark Moschino

    yeah that would be sick actually. all this talk just makes me wish for a directors cut. tho part of the reason i have so much respect for the wachowski sisters is that they don’t do that

    99.9% of directors don't do that

  • Jan 2, 2022
    Mark Moschino

    yeah that would be sick actually. all this talk just makes me wish for a directors cut. tho part of the reason i have so much respect for the wachowski sisters is that they don’t do that

    Lol I don’t know if I respect no directors cut that deep especially with how many test screenings of this were done

  • Jan 2, 2022

    lmaaoooo fair y’all sometimes i get hyped

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    Elric

    99.9% of directors don't do that

    people actually ask the wachowskis to do them tho

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    Mark Moschino

    people actually ask the wachowskis to do them tho

    Yeah well we now live in the era where a vocal minority of fans will always demand a directors cut if they don't like the finished product (especially for established franchises) but studios will still only let less than 1% of the filmmakers actually do it I reckon