And this would probably just happen again.

but why not farmers? they're turning a profit no?

If you're gouging in any scenario I can agree it's exploitative, but it's fundamentally incorrect to assume that that's the case in every landlord situation. They provide services (can give you a LONG list of s*** I had to do at the apartments growing up) and deserve to be compensated for it. If you're making extreme margins and taking advantage of the people living there I agree, that's s***ty, but I'm just not so certain that's usually the case.

I recommend you study economics more because those investment tools help drive innovation and have afforded us the luxuries we have.

Or take this to StalinToThe

Capitalism doesn't fuel innovation. People fuel innovation. Humans didn't get to where we are for just money, they wanted to live and improve lives. Sure it helped speed up s***, but capitalism has shown many times it doesn't fuel it. Look at streetwear culture and resell markets

It’s important for us to have the best military

That’s just a reality for the best country in the world

it depends on how you view renting vs owning property in regards to if you believe that renting is just throwing your money away

some wealthy people choose to rent, because when you own, not only do you pay taxes, but are also responsible for all repairs, and a lot of time, house ownership can be a poor investment (this is actually a huge argument in the investment community - some thing home ownership is good, others think it’s a terrible investment)

But that argument is besides the point in this thread, and can be a whole other thread on its own

to your point, I do not think renting perpetuates poverty at all, in fact, it can help save money, since, as mentioned above, you aren’t responsible for taxes and home repairs you otherwise would have to take care of

the real problem with renting is the living conditions some landlords allow their property to sustain. they need to take better care of their properties in “low income areas” while keeping them affordable for the community that lives there. it’s quite the task, but doable.

that’s why I still lean towards reform as opposed to abolishment, we just need to fine tune and correct what isn’t working

renting needs to exist, otherwise parents would have their 20-30 year old children living with them because attempting to buy a house is a large, expensive task

of course, that’s assuming we don’t over throw the system like the comrades want and magically provide free housing for all

You have an odd way of looking at this issue. I’ll leave it at that. I just think it’s funny you say all these things but like that’s literally what happens here in the US, and it clearly works because you’re speaking about it directly. Every point you’ve made is something that’s been propagated by the right to drive fear into you and not question the status quo when in reality our military is used to maintain global hegemony and be an influencer globally

you would just make a law insuring no rent/mortgages. im not exactly sure how it would work but there's nothing to say it couldnt happen

i’m still paying for an apartment i don’t even live in for 6 months now

niggas got me f***ed up, hope they go bankrupt soon 😡

The economic situation of netherlands

Is generational and systemic poverty a widespread thing?

Yeah but what's going to differentiate the council from landlords ?

And are the people that live on the land the owners of that land ?

I am aware that it is propagandist but it is still true that if we didn't have the strongest military, countries like China and Russia would begin to influence us a lot more than they already are. And that is not propaganda. That is just the reality of human behavior. When you have power over someone, you will influence them to your will. And we can't have that with communists that freely exploit and murder their own people.

Idk about all that, but rn with the Rona the government should’ve set something up to help directly with housing, not just the stimulus but something more directly with it

farmers aren't exploiting anyone, but in a capitalist society they have to sell their food to a middleman yes? also, we need farmers for food right? we don't need landlords for housing

again, this is "not all cops" energy. landlords are fundamentally exploitative. stories about a few "good" ones doesnt change the fact.

says who?

dumbest user on the site strikes again

Lmfao well considering you think Russia and China are “communists” just further proves my point that you’ve entirely ingested the US propaganda. I’m done here, I gotta get ready to be a capitalist slave

You can't compare cops and landlords lol. Using this same logic, by some people standards everyone is immoral or evil for being complicted in a capitalistic system.

we're just gonna have to agree to disagree here man. it's not worth either of our time to go back and forth on this.

China is communist. Not the fantasy bullshit Marxist communism you people envision, but the real communism: A government that takes far too much money and exploits their people mercilessly because they are dictators.

Russia is not as bad as China but they are close in regards to how much they meddle in international affairs at the cost of their peoples money.

That's not true. We literally were in a space race with soviet union lmaaaooo. People really undermine our species thinking we as a whole are just greedy. I can see it being true in a lot of places, but it overlooks the empathy and emotional growth we take for thousands of years.

I think they did

I dont remember the specifics, but I’m pretty sure laws were passed where landlords could not evict people during the pandemic

no amount of empathy or emotional growth will ever replace the universal notion that we all the want the best for ourselves, at the cost of others.

From the George Floyd dolls being sold on Instagram to the result of d*** trafficking through "socialist" Venezuelan politics, this has always been true.

also dont forget the weirdo hipsters crying for communist/socialist rule HATED the space race and were mad af the government was spending money towards that rather than towards the poor.