Reading these lyrics and themes, there is a major major theme drawing all of these songs together centred on the idea of searching for answers and solutions for life issues and trauma outside of yourself. Part of it centres around kendrick talking scout how he searches for solutions in women and material things, and part of it accuses us of looking to him for our own salvation. The key to all of this is mother I'm sober and mr morale. I personally lean towards the idea that the first disk is kendrick telling us about how he copes, and suffers... the 2nd disk is him holding up a mirror to us, showing us how we cope, look to other sources for solutions to problems we have to deal with looking at ourselves before anyone else. The point of the album is that hurt people hurt more people, which is the "culture" and we have to break the cycle through introspection in order to protect the next generation. To break "the culture" which is passed down through generations as disguised trauma... we look to him as our personal "mr morale" - which is meant semi sarcastically, he shouldn't be our morale dial. The world, all of us, we are the big steppers, who hurt people due to our traumas
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@Undisclosed Iâm curious to what you think so far?
This is a special album man. Honestly I wasnât sure what to expect going into this musically, thematically, etc. I donât even remember any of the leaks and didnât recognize any while listening
But this production?? Jesus this is some of the most insane production Iâve ever heard from a major rapper since Yeezus this s*** is weeeiiirdddd. I especially love the combination of typical hip hop drums mixed in with the more heavier industrial style drums. Not to mention the synths on songs like N95 and Mirror, reminds me of Graduation a bit with the way theyâre used.
Lyrically I mean what is there to say? We all knew Kendrick was a master in his craft and heâs just doing victory laps at this point. I know we hate Fantano but I remember he said something in his Heart 5 reaction where he said âno bar is wasted, every single word has a meaningâ and thatâs just simply the way to write a compelling message and Kendrick is just the best at that. This album is a masterclass in âshowing not tellingâ, but when he is telling us something itâs engaging and hard to shift my focus away from it (songs like Auntie Diary and the song about SA).
The only song I really donât like atm is Die Hard and I just donât like it lmao thatâs really all I gotta say about it. But other than that even songs like We Cry Together Iâm going back and replaying because theyâre scratching an emotional itch that I didnât even know was there. Album is making me feel a lot deeper than I expected so itâs a lot.
Overall I think this is a very special and will be sparking discussions for a long time about the meaning of it, his words, where we go from here as people, etc.
Why does every album have to be compared to a Kanye album lol
Ye the gold standard
Why does every album have to be compared to a Kanye album lol
That's the bar for greatness
Why does every album have to be compared to a Kanye album lol
Because he set the standard for everything
@op @Bow_And_Arrow what do you think of the album
This is an interesting perspective. My two trans friends both had different feelings.
Friend A said: since itâs a very personal story abd is being told from a junior high Kendrick she didnât have an issue with it. They said they were happy that a major rapper finally spoke on the issue in a way that was accepting.
Friend B said: said that if his trans aunt and cousin was fine with it then they were also fine. But also thought songs like this need clarification in the form of an interview and not to be left open ended. I appreciate you responding.
Friend B got a point.
kendrick definitely aint doing no interviews tho. big part of it (imo) is they gonna be askin him bout yak constantly lol.
Maybe if kanye produce and kendrick write lol
Itâll be interesting but Ye obviously gets murdered by Kendrick just off of flows
Oh wow. Gotcha. I never knew that. Appreciate the convo.
don't mention it, always happy to educate ppl on the topic :)
i get that, and i totally understand he was demonstrating the growth of ignorance by realizing the intentions of the f-slur, but i worry it will be taken out of context by actual transphobes
satire requires a clarity of purpose and target, lest it be mistaken for and contribute to that which it intends to criticize
I agree with you in that the execution of this song was far from perfect but I doubt anyone listening to it wouldn't understand the intention behind what he is saying.
of course! if you have any other questions (this goes for anyone else in this thread) don't hesitate to ask
Will do
I always thought of a name change like pronouns, you refer to someone the way they want to be referred to and I think there's a lot of unique power in someone's name so I always hold high regard for names in general but it's good to know there's a particular term for calling someone that had transitioned by their former name and to hear thoughts on how destructive that can be
Why does every album have to be compared to a Kanye album lol
Donda 2 is Kanyeâs Nothing Was The Big Steppers
I agree with you in that the execution of this song was far from perfect but I doubt anyone listening to it wouldn't understand the intention behind what he is saying.
i can only hope that's the case
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Yea check Spotify
don't mention it, always happy to educate ppl on the topic :)
Thatâs love!! â¤ď¸â¤ď¸
i guess i never..expected this?
i didnt think one of the sentiments expressed in this album would essentially be kendrick not caring what people feel about it, and him being more focused on himself and his family to escape from the stress of...this to stop tap dancing and posturing as some rap savior
dude is just minding his own business while every listener plays julius caesar with his music
the fact that im way more annoyed about dismissive reactions to this album than kendrick ever probably will be says something
thats very interesting cuz after heart part 5 i realized this was a huge part of his discography basically TPAB
"ain't nobody praying for me," and all
Die hard which is a good song but generic for my taste and rich spirit
Rich Spirit sounds like Rap Caviar filler, basic as hell for an artist like Kendrick who usually brings so much more to the table
I like pretty much everything on some level, but that one and Silent Hill don't add much to an already long album
"As I lead this army" c'mon bro lol.
that when s*** hit the fan line is also like...I mean it defends on what the s*** is. All love is conditional and everyone has their own personal line based on their perspectives from the lives they live. For some that line is abuse/rape which once again makes the whole yak thing kinda...funny.
the way they both kinda responded also kinda proved Noname's point tho at the same time.
I also think it's hilarious Noname's turned into a poster child for being 'holier than thou' when like....if you really been a fan you remember she used to be publically called out for her old rap name (Noname Gypsy) and herself realizing and apologizing publicly about it. And also was being transparent when she was first openly transitioning away from capitalist thought (something else she publicly admitted she was wrong about)
HEY HEY I said the song had grand standing for sure, no denying it
I think Cole's response proved her point more than K Dot, lmao K Dot was literally in the streets while Cole wrote a whole song in response.
And idk if folks look at Noname like that for her to be the "holier than thou" poster child or if they think that particular situation was just dumb af, which it was for all parties involved.
As far as the s*** hits the fan line it is fair, but in the context I feel like he was on some "innocent until proven guilty" s*** with who and what he was referring to