Eh idk. This does happen all the time with most every big artist.
Back in 09 on relapse Eminem has a line where he says âevery CD critics give a 3. Then 3 years later theyâd go back and re-rate it. And call the slim shady lp âthe greatestâ The Marshall mathers was âa classicâ. The Eminem show was âfantasticâ but encore âjust didnât have the didnât have the caliber to match it.â I guess enough time just ainât pass yet. A couple more years that s***âll be Illmaticâ
But was Encore ever Illmatic?
Perhaps that was on purpose.
Youâre right, but I think thatâs the issue people are having with it. He couldâve gotten any under 27 year old street rapper, but he specifically chose Kodak because of his controversial past. Even though purposeful, it still deflates some of Kendrickâs points throughout the album
When Cole dropped Off Season, I didnât like KOD more or better and when Ye dropped DONDA finished, I knew immediately it was better then JIK.
I guess it just depends.
For Ye, this has been happening ever since Pablo. Donda/JIK was the one exception.
When Pablo dropped, people said Yeezus was better.
When Ye dropped, people said Pablo was better.
When JIK dropped, people said Ye was better.
Ehh, I think itâs moreso that Kodak being on this album directly conflicts with and undermines some of the messages Kendrick is trying to convey on this project
I think heâs really bucking cancel culture and the whole group think group morality social structure that the internet and social media have created
People arenât perfect man. People make mistakes. Itâs not our place to judge anyone. Only God can judge. Thatâs what I think Kodakâs feature is about.
Just because a person is flawed doesnât mean you should disown them from society. S*** is toxic asf on some black mirror s***. Kendrick created a space of unconditional love for his little brother on his album and itâs beautiful. We really all brothers. God always forgives. Why canât we learn to?
When Cole dropped Off Season, I didnât like KOD more or better and when Ye dropped DONDA finished, I knew immediately it was better then JIK.
I guess it just depends.
It just depends, people like 4yeo more after kod, people like views more after scorpion. People like pablo more after ye
Mirror is one of his best songs
Youâre right, but I think thatâs the issue people are having with it. He couldâve gotten any under 27 year old street rapper, but he specifically chose Kodak because of his controversial past. Even though purposeful, it still deflates some of Kendrickâs points throughout the album
I know he did it to separate himself from the âcancel culture, woke, social Twitter activistâ s***. That line âIâm more Kodak Black then pro blackâ and then having him on the album tells me that Kodak was a personification of him wanting to separate himself from the âmorally righteousâ. Perhaps the contradiction with deflating a few points was done to show heâs flawed and contradicting like everyone else.
I think heâs really bucking cancel culture and the whole group think group morality social structure that the internet and social media have created
People arenât perfect man. People make mistakes. Itâs not our place to judge anyone. Only God can judge. Thatâs what I think Kodakâs feature is about.
Just because a person is flawed doesnât mean you should disown them from society. S*** is toxic asf on some black mirror s***. Kendrick created a space of unconditional love for his little brother on his album and itâs beautiful. We really all brothers. God always forgives. Why canât we learn to?
I fully believe in forgiveness too, but I think there should also be a line. I know a lot of people, myself included, who think that rape is the worst crime a person can commit, because the victim has to live with that pain for the rest of their lives.
People make mistakes, yes, but rape/sexual assault is the one mistake that I think is universally agreed upon that should never happen, in any circumstance.
Iâm not saying Kodak should be ostracized from society, but I completely understand why many people believe that artists should no longer give men/women like that a platform
But was Encore ever Illmatic?
Haha no I mean we know it never got to that level obviously but I think he was just using dramatic effect. But it was looked upon a lot more fondly later.
And the same thing happened with relapse when recovery came out.
Happened with views to drake when scorpion came out.
When The Weeknd came out with BBTM everyone loved kiss land all the sudden.
Nostalgia is a hell of a d***. And the longer/more you listen to an artist the harder it is for them to continue to impress you and raise the bar.
Thatâs honestly been the most impressive thing about Kendrick and Drakeâs careers (even though no one wants to hear that for Drake) is that in their respective lanes theyâve been able to keep âleveling upâ over and over again. Itâs genuinely amazing.
When Cole dropped Off Season, I didnât like KOD more or better and when Ye dropped DONDA finished, I knew immediately it was better then JIK.
I guess it just depends.
Yeah and when wlr dropped the fans on here started s***ting on Die Lit lol (both amazing albums)
I know he did it to separate himself from the âcancel culture, woke, social Twitter activistâ s***. That line âIâm more Kodak Black then pro blackâ and then having him on the album tells me that Kodak was a personification of him wanting to separate himself from the âmorally righteousâ. Perhaps the contradiction with deflating a few points was done to show heâs flawed and contradicting like everyone else.
It was so smart of Kendrick to do this, imo it was a good way to successfully separate himself from these woke liberal SJW's
Great album, Auntieâs Diary floored me when I first heard it
I gasped at that last line
Yeah and when wlr dropped the fans on here started s***ting on Die Lit lol (both amazing albums)
It was a mixed bag Christmas Eve. Some people were S***TING on WLR and praising Die Lit like crazy or it was reversed.
this went from the worst kendrick album to top 3 very quickly
this went from the worst kendrick album to top 3 very quickly
Its the biggest grower Iâve heard in years. It should be required to have atleast 3-4 listens for this album before speaking on it. I know some dudes on here skimmed that s*** and then immediately started s***ting on it.
I know he did it to separate himself from the âcancel culture, woke, social Twitter activistâ s***. That line âIâm more Kodak Black then pro blackâ and then having him on the album tells me that Kodak was a personification of him wanting to separate himself from the âmorally righteousâ. Perhaps the contradiction with deflating a few points was done to show heâs flawed and contradicting like everyone else.
I think cancel culture is stupid and virtue signaling more than anything these days, but I think thereâs also a big difference between letâs say Twitter trying to cancel a rapper for a controversial tweet from 2010, and a rapper who is literally a convicted rapist.
If Kendrick needed a rapper to fill that role whoâs been involved in just as much controversy in the past year but isnât a convicted rapist, DaBaby wouldâve worked perfectly. He also wouldâve tied into the story Kendrick told on Auntie Diaries.
I think cancel culture is stupid and virtue signaling more than anything these days, but I think thereâs also a big difference between letâs say Twitter trying to cancel a rapper for a controversial tweet from 2010, and a rapper who is literally a convicted rapist.
If Kendrick needed a rapper to fill that role whoâs been involved in just as much controversy in the past year but isnât a convicted rapist, DaBaby wouldâve worked perfectly. He also wouldâve tied into the story Kendrick told on Auntie Diaries.
That last point is one I agree with. Dababy being in here wouldâve definitely caused controversy too though.
I think cancel culture is stupid and virtue signaling more than anything these days, but I think thereâs also a big difference between letâs say Twitter trying to cancel a rapper for a controversial tweet from 2010, and a rapper who is literally a convicted rapist.
If Kendrick needed a rapper to fill that role whoâs been involved in just as much controversy in the past year but isnât a convicted rapist, DaBaby wouldâve worked perfectly. He also wouldâve tied into the story Kendrick told on Auntie Diaries.
That nigga would not have been able to do what Kodak did nearly as effectively. Definitely wouldâve caused controversy but I donât think it wouldâve hit as hard tbh
Please stop s***ting on DAMN. Both projects are great.
Have no clue the hate for DAMN on this forum.
Personally feel like that album lowkey saved him. Also think itâs easier for him to make TPAB and Morale type s*** then DAMN.
I think cancel culture is stupid and virtue signaling more than anything these days, but I think thereâs also a big difference between letâs say Twitter trying to cancel a rapper for a controversial tweet from 2010, and a rapper who is literally a convicted rapist.
If Kendrick needed a rapper to fill that role whoâs been involved in just as much controversy in the past year but isnât a convicted rapist, DaBaby wouldâve worked perfectly. He also wouldâve tied into the story Kendrick told on Auntie Diaries.
dababy annoying tho
That nigga would not have been able to do what Kodak did nearly as effectively. Definitely wouldâve caused controversy but I donât think it wouldâve hit as hard tbh
Do a couple of two line intros, a spoken word interlude, and a feature verse?
DaBabyâs beats be repetitive but heâs a solid rapper, he definitely couldâve filled Kodakâs role on this album