STUFF

5y

Oh so your argument is literally horseshit

2 retired women are literally more buzzing than Summer Walker

Your argument has no constraints. It’s literally “who is hotter this very second”

Summer Walker could release an album in a Month and Mariah Carey’s Christmas song will get more streams and we’ll have this same conversation on Christmas Day

IKARUS2020

5y

And he cant a cluntry artist?????

Durkio World

5y

Are they actually retired? Im not reading the rest of this. Show proof they retired.

IKARUS2020

5y

? I was asking if u say ww too

and no , bro this flopped hard, not even 250

He is one of the biggest yeah

Durkio World

5y

im not even surprised she hasnt responded yet. b**** just say s*** left and right with no basis

Durkio World

5y

"You don't sell nearly 800k first week with just a "core fanbase", or end the year at #2 in total album sales with a "core fanbase.""

Yes you do. It's called being the biggest rapper ever or at the time.

Maybe you need a reality check because you obviously don't go out as much. Drake was more talked about in 2013. He had more buzzing songs and was in demand for features more than Eminem was for a reason. Drake was more talked about on social media. The youth checked for drake more. Drake's actions were followed more.

Nothing you are saying here matters because the numbers outweigh all the criticism he had. Eminem also had criticism in 2013 too but you conveniently leave this out to further your own agenda. Cognitive dissonance is unreal.

STUFF

5y

No of course not I was exaggerating. Jill literally released music last year.

Tubig

5y

The core fanbase is what makes Kamikaze and that last album chart. 800k people dropping $10 on an album in one week is crossover, mainstream appeal. That's not a core fanbase, that's casuals and the community spending their money on the s***. A "core fanbase" makes up about 20% of those sales. You obviously don't know what words mean.

I listened to TC/NWTS 1000x more than Recovery/MMLP2. Drake was a better artist at the time. That's my favorite Drake era. I was in College those years, and I traveled a lot. But people were hating. It's just the truth. Meanwhile Eminem was still in top 3 discussions for best rappers alive. Eminem was never a feature artist, dude's a weirdo recluse. He disappeared for half a decade at one point, but was hot and relevant enough to still be the biggest rapper when he dropped.

Em had plenty of criticisms, at the time, the music was garbage.
But no one gave a s***, it was still hot and no one cared about the criticism til he dropped an irredeemable piece of s*** with Revival.

You're talking out your ass talking about cognitive dissonance and my "agenda", which idk wtf you think is. But really it's just that the more recent actions of those artists are clouding your memory of 2013. Or you just don't remember s*** at all.

Tubig

5y

The core fanbase is what makes Kamikaze and that last album chart. 800k people dropping $10 on an album in one week is crossover, mainstream appeal. That's not a core fanbase, that's casuals and the community spending their money on the s***. A "core fanbase" makes up about 20% of those sales. You obviously don't know what words mean.

I listened to TC/NWTS 1000x more than Recovery/MMLP2. Drake was a better artist at the time. That's my favorite Drake era. I was in College those years, and I traveled a lot. But people were hating. It's just the truth. Meanwhile Eminem was still in top 3 discussions for best rappers alive. Eminem was never a feature artist, dude's a weirdo recluse. He disappeared for half a decade at one point, but was hot and relevant enough to still be the biggest rapper when he dropped.

Em had plenty of criticisms, at the time, the music was garbage.
But no one gave a s***, it was still hot and no one cared about the criticism til he dropped an irredeemable piece of s*** with Revival.

You're talking out your ass talking about cognitive dissonance and my "agenda", which idk wtf you think is. But really it's just that the more recent actions of those artists are clouding your memory of 2013. Or you just don't remember s*** at all.

Durkio World

5y

Ur forgetting to factor in the difference between sales and streams. If streams didnt exist em would still be pushing 600-800k.

I dont understand why you keep continuing the cognitive dissonance. You mention drake's criticisms and fail to mention the praise he also got but mention em's praise. Imma just ignore you from here on out no point in discussing this with you anymore.

Durkio World

5y

so you just making shut up just to piss me off. got it.

lg

5y

🤣🤣🤣 no one liked eminem more than drake in 2013 u tool

safe

5y

69 is hotter than Drake

Drakes still clearly bigger

lg

5y

why ur corny ass rocking a drake avy ur not a drake fan

jesuisadorable

5y

this sounds sexual af

theboy

5y

Durkio right but it's hard to measure how hot someone is in a given year.

69 hotter than Drake right now but 69 last album sold less than 100k while Drake sold over 700k with Scorpion in the same year.

safe

5y

Eminem was bigger than Drake in 2013

Drake was hotter and more relevant

safe

5y

Literally no one agrees with this except Kanye stans

Kanye ran 2010 maybe

Drake was bigger than Kanye from 2011 on by hits by sales by impact