necromancer

1y

Honestly, I see the overarching trait of his first three albums as him taking the piss out of his own perceived audience (White America largely represents the cozy suburbs, and Detroit is infamously known for its white flight starting in the 70s)

But they didn’t really get the joke and instead glorified what he was criticizing through that song

White America didn’t want to acknowledge that the things they asserted to minority groups (heavy d*** abuse, HIV, “immoral” hedonism, etc.) were actually within them as well but they are hypocrites and want to look away and push the burden

Maybe I’m reaching idk, but I’ve always seen Em’s early albums persona as a tongue-in-cheek criticism from a member of the lower-class white “trailer trash” community who saw solidarity with his black peers in hip-hop to the higher-class suburban middle class who violently rejected it as “degenerate” and not “real art”

necromancer

1y

Honestly, I see the overarching trait of his first three albums as him taking the piss out of his own perceived audience (White America largely represents the cozy suburbs, and Detroit is infamously known for its white flight starting in the 70s)

But they didn’t really get the joke and instead glorified what he was criticizing through that song

White America didn’t want to acknowledge that the things they asserted to minority groups (heavy d*** abuse, HIV, “immoral” hedonism, etc.) were actually within them as well but they are hypocrites and want to look away and push the burden

Maybe I’m reaching idk, but I’ve always seen Em’s early albums persona as a tongue-in-cheek criticism from a member of the lower-class white “trailer trash” community who saw solidarity with his black peers in hip-hop to the higher-class suburban middle class who violently rejected it as “degenerate” and not “real art”

necromancer

1y

Honestly, I see the overarching trait of his first three albums as him taking the piss out of his own perceived audience (White America largely represents the cozy suburbs, and Detroit is infamously known for its white flight starting in the 70s)

But they didn’t really get the joke and instead glorified what he was criticizing through that song

White America didn’t want to acknowledge that the things they asserted to minority groups (heavy d*** abuse, HIV, “immoral” hedonism, etc.) were actually within them as well but they are hypocrites and want to look away and push the burden

Maybe I’m reaching idk, but I’ve always seen Em’s early albums persona as a tongue-in-cheek criticism from a member of the lower-class white “trailer trash” community who saw solidarity with his black peers in hip-hop to the higher-class suburban middle class who violently rejected it as “degenerate” and not “real art”

CrippledGod

1y

Old Em would have been too afraid of being thought of as corny to make Not Afraid.

Dynamic Uno Music

1y

We wouldve been so better off

CrippledGod

1y

Old Em would have been too afraid of being thought of as corny to make Not Afraid.

math fifty

1y

Old Em had better judgement

CrippledGod

1y

Not having this conversation with niggas who don't even understand why Em is great in the first place.

Yall think its about flows and rhyming in conventional pockets

math fifty

1y

ive been listening to em for longer than youve been alive lmao

no one tryna hear that bullshit pop rap he be coming out with

Kendrik lama

1y

"How did he go from this to the choppy, dad joke bar flow?"

He's literally a dad and eligible to be a grandad.

Still can rap circles around your fav don't get it twisted.

SIGH

1y

never really liekd Em but the only stuff of his i enjoyed were old freestlyes cuz they made me laugh

Remark

1y

Ive said for over a decade at this point that the overdose f***ed his s*** up crazy. Mans relearned how to rap awfully.

His flow used to be so nice and he always had the line between the type of corny that wasnt super cringe and being actually serious while still having bars and Role Model was a perfect example of that.

The song is definitely a product of it’s time but for the most part still holds up today due to his technical ability. Em still has it and it shows from time to time but I don’t think he can consistently pop s*** like this for a whole album.

math fifty

1y

You can still make dad rap sound good

Magic, 4:44, Life is Good, Cheat Codes, etc just cause you 40 dont mean you have to be trash

Newhouse

1y

Em could probably still tap into this tbh he just doesn’t get good production anymore