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  • Nessy 🦎
    May 25, 2022
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    babylon sherm

    Spit some bars over it

    cracker cracker cracker didnt know any better

  • Nessy 🦎
    May 25, 2022
    ImAUsernameLike

    is Kendrick Lamar Duckworth the person whose vocal chords you hear on the song during that quote, yes or no?

    was Kendrick Lamar in that room with 3 guys first time he was tossed

  • BLACK
    May 25, 2022
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    Bernie X

    Kanye invented

    this new gimmick is f***ing abysmal bro

  • May 25, 2022
    ImAUsernameLike

    so what you’re saying is, Kendrick learns over the course of the song (a metaphor for him growing up) that using the word as a straight person is wrong and acknowledges it’s just as bad as when white people say the n word, then grown-up Kendrick with this perspective decides to make a song about learning this lesson by using the slur he just acknowledged wasn’t acceptable to use nearly a dozen times

    unless you’re trying to argue that Kendrick stepped away from the mic & let his cousin say the f word all those times, then that’s a different story

    People will do everything they can to wriggle out of this contradiction. I love the song regardless, but come on, people gotta be honest.

  • May 25, 2022
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    ImAUsernameLike

    so what you’re saying is, Kendrick learns over the course of the song (a metaphor for him growing up) that using the word as a straight person is wrong and acknowledges it’s just as bad as when white people say the n word, then grown-up Kendrick with this perspective decides to make a song about learning this lesson by using the slur he just acknowledged wasn’t acceptable to use nearly a dozen times

    unless you’re trying to argue that Kendrick stepped away from the mic & let his cousin say the f word all those times, then that’s a different story

    Yeah, he knowingly used a slur he acknowledged was inappropriate in order to make a point in an artistic context. You don't change minds and get people talking about issues by muting their impact (but at least you'll have moral high ground, I guess).

    I challenge someone to write a more impactful and ear catching version of the song with no problematic content. That would be a more meaningful contribution to the discourse around the song than simply passing judgment.

  • PIMP 💿
    May 25, 2022
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    HOV INNOCENT

    My only problem is on that swell Kendrick’s vocals get overpowered. Kind of hurts the impact of the moment storytelling wise but for some reason Kendrick voice gets drowned out elsewhere on the album too

    What no MixedByAli does to a mf

  • May 25, 2022
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    PIMP

    What no MixedByAli does to a mf

    Sad, I wonder why Ali isn’t as involved, Kendrick must see how important he is to his vocal style. His vocals could cut through and hit harder on a lot of these tracks tbh compared to gkmc and TPAB. There was a big decline in Kendrick’s vocal mixing with DAMN

    Don’t get me started on whoever is quantizing his vocals to the beat which gives them that robotic glitchy feel on some moments

  • PIMP 💿
    May 25, 2022
    HOV INNOCENT

    Sad, I wonder why Ali isn’t as involved, Kendrick must see how important he is to his vocal style. His vocals could cut through and hit harder on a lot of these tracks tbh compared to gkmc and TPAB. There was a big decline in Kendrick’s vocal mixing with DAMN

    Don’t get me started on whoever is quantizing his vocals to the beat which gives them that robotic glitchy feel on some moments

    Idk what's goin on we don't have clear info it seems

    I was gonna say album sounds AI at moments but I don't wanna be called a hater

  • PIMP 💿
    May 25, 2022

    Father time intro especially

    Couldn't bro hit the reverse beat on time

  • May 25, 2022
    DJ7A7A

    because its insensitive and completely negates his powerful message on the song

    it really doesn’t lmao

  • May 25, 2022
    Everest

    The way it starts to swell after ‘mr preacher man should we love thy neighbour? the laws of the land or the heart, what’s greater?’ is so nice. Love the jazzy/marching drums that get louder

    It does have a nice drive to it doesn’t it. The accents on the kick gives off a lil militant flair, too.

  • May 25, 2022
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    ImAUsernameLike

    did his cousin record those vocals or did Kendrick Lamar say them himself?

    would it even change something? do you automatically feel ok with the word being said if it's not kendrick saying it but another voice?

  • May 25, 2022
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    Ysl sackchaser?

  • May 25, 2022
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    ImAUsernameLike

    a lot of white people grew up using the n word because it was the cool thing to do

    if a white person made a song where they shouted the n word a bunch of times as the chorus to say “i used to say this but now i know it’s wrong” in the year 2022, how would you react?

    No white person in america freely said nigga, especially with the -er, without knowing how that would be received outside of their group of edgy white friends, not the same with the f word, that's why it's different bc it's about actual growth from learning a different perspective that they werent aware of that just was never the case with nigga

  • May 25, 2022
    ImAUsernameLike

    once again, the only reason you think this way is because you are not on the receiving end of that slur

    No because he's talking about how it was condemned by society at large, and that was not the same for both words, has nothing to do with one particular perspective

  • May 25, 2022
    Q3D

    I don't think it was ever OK for anyone to say the f word lol its just that nobody gave a f*** but the hurt was very much real for the people it was directed at

    Definitely it was never okay, the difference is just when people realized it wasn't okay. I think that makes a difference in how Kendrick used the word in context of the song.

    Ofc it's understandable and not something to belittle if some people still feel uncomfortable listening to the song or anything, especially if they're the people who the slur was directed at

  • May 25, 2022
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    Like if some white person made that same song but with the n word in the 60s orbwhatever obviously that would be different from doing it now, idk why people are acting like prevailing attitudes at the time don't matter here

  • May 25, 2022
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    Nessy

    cracker cracker cracker didnt know any better

    "Cracker cracker cracker we can say it together, but only if you let a white girl say nigga" - Tom Macdonald

  • May 25, 2022

    The question you really gotta ask yourself is what is more important, conveying an effective message to the target audience or your own performative purity

  • Nessy 🦎
    May 25, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    "Cracker cracker cracker we can say it together, but only if you let a white girl say nigga" - Tom Macdonald

    "I put on the radio and hear kendrick say whatever he wants in a song
    But somehow when a straight white guy like me says it it’s wrong??"

    Whitey diaries - tom mcdonald

  • Nessy 🦎
    May 25, 2022
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    In 2 years kendrick gonna explain how this song was written in the perspective of his distant cousin in an alternate reality where top dawg killed his dad

  • May 25, 2022
    Nessy

    In 2 years kendrick gonna explain how this song was written in the perspective of his distant cousin in an alternate reality where top dawg killed his dad

    Kenny not the type of person who feels like he gotta explain his art . Especially to satisfy a few mad people . Album was provocative all the way through in different ways

    People ultimately gonna take it the way they want to

  • May 25, 2022
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    ImAUsernameLike

    a lot of white people grew up using the n word because it was the cool thing to do

    if a white person made a song where they shouted the n word a bunch of times as the chorus to say “i used to say this but now i know it’s wrong” in the year 2022, how would you react?

    Here come the white people. It was never okay for white people to say the n word so this comparison doesn’t even make sense.

  • May 25, 2022
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    He could have found a more elegant way to talk about the f word without directly saying it

  • May 25, 2022
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    I don’t like the f word and nigga comparisons I think y’all need to stop it’s annoying

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