Maga Law

5y

Well I mean the numbers back up his claim

DonutHole

5y

By your logic, vanilla ice should be in the conversation as one of the greatest too. He was a dope mc and could dance but, my man....

Maga Law

5y

Well I mean the numbers back up his claim

weneedabigman

5y

get ur ass up on the pole let your worries go!

DonutHole

5y

By your logic, vanilla ice should be in the conversation as one of the greatest too. He was a dope mc and could dance but, my man....

ARCADE GOON

5y

i really can't understand joe budden's appeal. can a fan explain it to me? he's like shock jock radio hosts, but without the humor. his musical takes are dusty boomer tier and his co-hosts are borderline smoothbrains. joe is the smartest of the bunch but idk man

ARCADE GOON

5y

i really can't understand joe budden's appeal. can a fan explain it to me? he's like shock jock radio hosts, but without the humor. his musical takes are dusty boomer tier and his co-hosts are borderline smoothbrains. joe is the smartest of the bunch but idk man

user

5y

I ain’t gon lie Joe rubbed me the wrong way with his Lupe Dinosaurs review

Was completely off on his interpretation and that type of thinking is why niggas always rapping about pateks and cars and s***

He’s morphing into a caricature but he gotta stick to it Bc the podcast kind of popping now

But 90% of the time he’s loud and wrong really just tryna get views and be funny. It piss me off when no one correct him on the facts he be missing either. Ion wanna say this is a recent change but dude used to be way more a***ytical ES days IMO

That being said I never listened to Logic but kinda feel bad for him. For this s*** to push him to quit I can see it got him to a way darker place than he’s letting on and the nigga just said he wanted to kill himself

AGoodBoyo

5y

Exactly how I feel. Remember back in the day when they did album reviews, and greatest MC lists, and just generally got into like contracts and labels. Thoughtful discussions even if it was barbershop level intelligence.

Now it’s all lipstick alley s***.

Goo

5y

Also I don't understand how No I.D. just let him interpolate the Elevators chorus and acted like it's cool lmao

He def doesn't care about Logic and only worked with him for a paycheck

No Pressure

5y

you clearly don't know they have been working even before he was getting money?

Hi-C

5y

How many times we gonna have to say numbers don’t mean s*** except you appeal to the common denominator of rap fans. Sales don’t mean s*** when it comes to actual skill

Goo

5y

Commercial success in music is more about marketing

If you're older than 14 you should already be aware of this

Maga Law

5y

Logic built a solid fanbase and having commercial success for close to a decade isn’t a easy feature in the music industry

Y’all like to discredit artist numbers depending on who you like and don’t like

Goo

5y

Sorry for having a personal opinion bro. Let's all follow successful people blindly in life, without daring to think critically.

Maga Law

5y

Logic built a solid fanbase and having commercial success for close to a decade isn’t a easy feature in the music industry

Y’all like to discredit artist numbers depending on who you like and don’t like

DonutHole

5y

No it's just that certain people have better opportunities to market themselves in a specific ways.
I'll always be impressed by numbers when the artists defeated all odds or just outdid themselves/surpassed others.

Being a white passing rapper with a smart/nerd aesthetic selling to a crowd of rap nerds with stolen ideas (allegedly stole the suicide song concept, allegedly bites kendrick lamar) isn't that impressive to me, because he caters to a niche.

I'm not using the term rap nerds as a pejorative, it's just the way I'd describe those who are fully into the fast raps and identify with his gaming/comic book loving /chess playing personality

Alot of rappers regardless of color market themselves pretty well

Another example, 50 cent really profited off the
"hypermasculine black man stereotype" , with I'll fuxk your b/have more money than you /you want to be me/you can't f with me , bars.
Till this day people defend 50s mediocre verses (latter part of his career) by reiterating those points :he's doing way better than ypu blablabla (mind you the topic of discussion is the quality or lack there off of his new music)

Maga Law

5y

How you feel about the artist and the actual success of that artist it two different things

Nobody said you had to like Logic but he has been very successful

No matter what you try to say that’s just facts bro

Maga Law

5y

Don’t think I said that but alright

Goo

5y

From what I've seen Logic's fan base is mainly the "he's different than those other rappers" crowd.

Like if J.Cole wasn't relatable enough bc he plays basketball which is a cool hobby and attacks white ppl sometimes, here's a completely white passing gaming nerd who raps even faster.