Oh nah,he gets mentioned in that convo with me,and even then,he's still Top 5 DOA

Sales absolutely do not always equate to hotness, and as much as I love Relapse, that album was not making waves on the same level Blueprint 3 was.
I knew songs from BP3, whereas I didn’t even know Em had an album out at that point (I was not big into music at that time)

100%. Drake is definitely our generation’s Jay-Z equivalent

Yeah I involuntarily knew songs and videos from BP3 and was obsessed with the On To The Next One video in 6th grade

I don't really like Drakes new stuff, but the fact you matched Jay Zs GOAT (GOAT IMO) albums to Drakes GOAT albums means we got the same sentiments.

Jay Z was not the hottest rapper in 2009

I’d deadass argue he wasn’t “hotter” than Drake and Wayne lol. But he was above that convo by that point really above that discussion after Black Album

In 09 Id give it to Jay over Wayne and Drake

Wayne was cooling down a bit launching his artist and preparing to turn himself in for his bid. Drake had a great rookie year but didn’t even release an album that year. Hov released his biggest album, had a number 1 single, and was everywhere that year

I find the JAY-Z and Drake comparison so funny when talking about their discography.

Just talking about the music, Drake is topically so one note. He only raps/sings about 4/5 things (family/friends, his relationships with women, his success and how much better he is than everyone, Toronto). Drake is so limited topically and is only diverse sonically which I think is his best trait as an artist.

JAY-Z has a much more diverse catalogue topically. He raps about so many things.

You want to say Drake is more popular and has more hits, you are correct. I can't dispute that. But if we're talking discography, Drake's doesn't compare in no way. I say this as a fan of both.

Was thinking of exactly this while playing Dynasty last week

Good comparisons

I mean Jay is my goat (I got Drake at maybe 4 or 5) but you could argue the same thing about him though. He only raps about 4/5 things (family/friends, being a d*** dealer/hustler, his success, how much better he is than everyone, Brooklyn) lmao it’s literally almost the same

If anything I give Drake the nod for versatility since he is a capable artist in other genres and Hov is solely a rapper. I’m not gonna discredit either of them tho both legends and goats who did it their way.

My only gripe with Drake and Jay sometimes is that they literally brag about themselves on damn near every song lol.

They’re both great at it but sometimes I’m in not in the mood to hear that s***

I can respect this

What I can’t respect is someone who criticizes one for it and not the other s*** be a double standard foreal

Pretty good comparisons nice thread

@op has a loose definition of what a classic is. I’ve see. Some threads where you stretched the definition a little to far for my taste.

You right, Hov does have a general scope of things he raps about topically but I think he is so much more versatile in how he makes songs about it if that makes sense.

Like Hov can talk about women but make "Girls Girls Girls" or "Song Cry" or talk about family and make songs like "This Can't Be Life" or "You Must Love Me" or "Lost Ones" or make a song about hustling and then make a concept album like 'American Gangster'.

I just think it's different when comparing the two topically and how much in depth they are willing to get into these things without being stale.

In terms of versatility with genre bending, Drake got that for sure. He is a master at jumping to another genre and fitting right in and I never took that as him stealing culture and more so him approaching culture and wanting to be apart of it.

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Bro ran the background check on my previous posts that’s odee

NWTS isn’t the Blueprint but it’s drake’s blueprint for what it’s worth

I probably agree he doesn’t have a Black album really. The Black Album is a very unique and strange album considering it’s whole content is revolving around a fake retirement and is mostly an attempt at shaping ones own legacy with propaganda, something Elliott Wilson would take over later. Still not sure how I feel about the album today

I guess you could say NWTS is "Drakes" Blueprint if you want. Drake really doesn't have anything as introspective and concept heavy as Black Album for sure. Uts really a humbling album for Jay cause he's asking,when its all said and done"whats my place in rap history,would anyone care if im gone.

I don't think were ever getting anything loke that from Drake

How the f*** is HNVM a "concept album"

The Drake and Kanye comparison works better because they're both poppier/more crossover than a lot of other rappers.

Comparing Jay's work to Drake's simply doesn't make sense.

This is especially true when comparing RD to SFG. RD is considered one of the GOAT 90's rap albums whereas I never see people bringing up SFG as one of the best projects from the 2000's. Hell, it even gets overshadowed when people talk about the best mixtapes from the 2000's.

SFG is a great project but it doesn't have RD's legendary status at all. You got rappers doing remixes to Dead Presidents to this very day.

And comparing Vol 1 to TML is even worse since TML is downplayed and underrated by many Drake fans whereas Vol. 1 has some of Jay's best and most iconic album cuts like Imaginary Players and Where I'm From.

Overall, both Jay and Drake have their share of mid albums, classic/great albums, and mixed bag albums but Jay has higher highs in hip hop culture music wise.

Like I said, though, it's apples and oranges. Drake's catalog is better off being compared to other crossover rappers or his peers like Kendrick, Future, Cole, Tyler, etc.

Idk man Take Care is pretty introspective and concept heavy and extremely well produced obviously it’s not the SAME since it not a retirement album and it came earlier in his career rather than later but Take Care is a really high point in his discog that hits all those marks imo