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  • A Hitman level is a great comparison.

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    Trap kicks off like a level in a Hitman videogame. Social engineering leverages disguise, violence entails savvy, and navigation requires stealth. The ticking clock and spectacle are built into the premise. Concert footage cuts against head on dialogue trees with NPCs. The mammoth stature of an arena is set against close quarters and close calls.

    Shyamalan squanders this ripe scenario on a timeshare pitch. The closer his daughter gets to the camera, the more promises he asks of his audience. Promise to look past her poor acting. Promise that her piano lessons paid off. Promise that he will get to expand on the vagaries of this lore in subsequent films. This one doesn't even live up to its title.

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    Sudden Death (1995) <== Derogatory

    @Beach_kneega @XantaClaus @cody @NOONE @Sonyomom @TheTheoryIsYou @davey @BGFX @Mac_Wit_Da_Cheese @SOLARIS @Antidote @rhinocerosbeetle

    It really did feel like a game level in the beginning

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    Block Muteson
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    Trap kicks off like a level in a Hitman videogame. Social engineering leverages disguise, violence entails savvy, and navigation requires stealth. The ticking clock and spectacle are built into the premise. Concert footage cuts against head on dialogue trees with NPCs. The mammoth stature of an arena is set against close quarters and close calls.

    Shyamalan squanders this ripe scenario on a timeshare pitch. The closer his daughter gets to the camera, the more promises he asks of his audience. Promise to look past her poor acting. Promise that her piano lessons paid off. Promise that he will get to expand on the vagaries of this lore in subsequent films. This one doesn't even live up to its title.

    COMPARABLE
    Sudden Death (1995) <== Derogatory

    @Beach_kneega @XantaClaus @cody @NOONE @Sonyomom @TheTheoryIsYou @davey @BGFX @Mac_Wit_Da_Cheese @SOLARIS @Antidote @rhinocerosbeetle

    That’s exactly how I felt with the the badge stealing & the apron wearing… really annoying how he decided to just throw that out the window

  • Mr Papi Nigga Dave

    good write up
    bout to check out sudden death

    i like what he's doing for his daughters tho

    This Sudden Death trailer is nuts. Better than the movie lol

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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    It really did feel like a game level in the beginning

    With this and Aggro Dr1ft I wonder if we’re gonna enter a new wave of films that feel like video games

  • Sep 1, 2024
    Jonboi

    With this and Aggro Dr1ft I wonder if we’re gonna enter a new wave of films that feel like video games

    Wick 4 overhead section too

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    Block Muteson

    Trap kicks off like a level in a Hitman videogame. Social engineering leverages disguise, violence entails savvy, and navigation requires stealth. The ticking clock and spectacle are built into the premise. Concert footage cuts against head on dialogue trees with NPCs. The mammoth stature of an arena is set against close quarters and close calls.

    Shyamalan squanders this ripe scenario on a timeshare pitch. The closer his daughter gets to the camera, the more promises he asks of his audience. Promise to look past her poor acting. Promise that her piano lessons paid off. Promise that he will get to expand on the vagaries of this lore in subsequent films. This one doesn't even live up to its title.

    COMPARABLE
    Sudden Death (1995) <== Derogatory

    @Beach_kneega @XantaClaus @cody @NOONE @Sonyomom @TheTheoryIsYou @davey @BGFX @Mac_Wit_Da_Cheese @SOLARIS @Antidote @rhinocerosbeetle

    Sincerity goes a long way. I’m willing to accept the less-than-stellar performance from his daughter because the meta layer results in a cozy experience for me. I like that Shyamalan found a way to merge his family life with his artistic life. Usually, with nepotism it’s just the celeb greasing some doors and pushing their kid into the spotlight. But this feels like an example of how to do nepotism in a natural way, like he found a logical point where he could create space for her in his world. When you’ve built this empire for yourself, why not?

    If I hated her screen presence, I don’t know that any of this would matter, but she was just good enough for my liking.

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    Sincerity goes a long way. I’m willing to accept the less-than-stellar performance from his daughter because the meta layer results in a cozy experience for me. I like that Shyamalan found a way to merge his family life with his artistic life. Usually, with nepotism it’s just the celeb greasing some doors and pushing their kid into the spotlight. But this feels like an example of how to do nepotism in a natural way, like he found a logical point where he could create space for her in his world. When you’ve built this empire for yourself, why not?

    If I hated her screen presence, I don’t know that any of this would matter, but she was just good enough for my liking.

    I thought it was so smart to keep her in the background, you know, behind glass kind of like how a pop star is. I was totally on board.

    Up close she was a little unsettling. Once she becomes the hero I'm just over it. Little details like saving the guy with an IG live or her fans protecting her or the out of the way hug of the black kid are just public relations to me.

    I like Shyamalan and do think his sincerity always shines through. This is just so self-interested. Loses a little charm.

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    I thought it was so smart to keep her in the background, you know, behind glass kind of like how a pop star is. I was totally on board.

    Up close she was a little unsettling. Once she becomes the hero I'm just over it. Little details like saving the guy with an IG live or her fans protecting her or the out of the way hug of the black kid are just public relations to me.

    I like Shyamalan and do think his sincerity always shines through. This is just so self-interested. Loses a little charm.

    I like that she becomes so central, partly because it’s a way to push the plot to its logical conclusion in a ridiculous, cartoon logic kind of way haha. Like, of course she had to go to the killer’s house. Everything orbits around her. The movie shows us back doors, but then always chooses to walk us straight through the front. And, that’s exciting to me.

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    Jonboi

    I like that she becomes so central, partly because it’s a way to push the plot to its logical conclusion in a ridiculous, cartoon logic kind of way haha. Like, of course she had to go to the killer’s house. Everything orbits around her. The movie shows us back doors, but then always chooses to walk us straight through the front. And, that’s exciting to me.

    Nah man, the logical move is not "Taylor Swift saves the day with social media". Leaving the arena so she can meet the family is so forced. It's an intrusion a pop star usually experiences rather than take part in. It's all very contrived.

  • Sep 2, 2024

    This was entertaining

  • Sep 2, 2024

    i really enjoyed this

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    Block Muteson

    Trap kicks off like a level in a Hitman videogame. Social engineering leverages disguise, violence entails savvy, and navigation requires stealth. The ticking clock and spectacle are built into the premise. Concert footage cuts against head on dialogue trees with NPCs. The mammoth stature of an arena is set against close quarters and close calls.

    Shyamalan squanders this ripe scenario on a timeshare pitch. The closer his daughter gets to the camera, the more promises he asks of his audience. Promise to look past her poor acting. Promise that her piano lessons paid off. Promise that he will get to expand on the vagaries of this lore in subsequent films. This one doesn't even live up to its title.

    COMPARABLE
    Sudden Death (1995) <== Derogatory

    @Beach_kneega @XantaClaus @cody @NOONE @Sonyomom @TheTheoryIsYou @davey @BGFX @Mac_Wit_Da_Cheese @SOLARIS @Antidote @rhinocerosbeetle

    i agree it's contrived but i feel the whole movie moreso tries to achieve the cartoonish logic the other poster was talking about even in the first act with the fryer stuff for example, then ofc there was a pleasure in seeing hartnett work the room that goes missing but this very fact is what Trap wants to talk about imo, like "old" spectacle vs "new" spectacle (perhaps even a***og vs digital at large), a generational battle of some sort and parental questions regarding what can possibly make this singer my daughter loves so attractive? in a way the first act is about getting there, the butcher gets to go to her most intimate place, her dressing room, but then does the most desperate act thus far to preserve yes his freedom but also some sort of authority over his daughter's affection and this move is what causes his downfall because he'll find out that the secret of the Pop Star is genuinity (a stretch in the real world of course lmao but it's Shyamalan after all), something that he can't have bc of his double life

    in light of this Saleka's presence to me feels like Shyamalan telling us how happy he is to have found a way to make their respective interests collide rather than just plant her, tho that's inevitable

    side note the ig live scene i thought was cool how she uses the internal camera in contrast w the butcher who's always using the external one, pointing it somewhere else

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    NOONE

    i agree it's contrived but i feel the whole movie moreso tries to achieve the cartoonish logic the other poster was talking about even in the first act with the fryer stuff for example, then ofc there was a pleasure in seeing hartnett work the room that goes missing but this very fact is what Trap wants to talk about imo, like "old" spectacle vs "new" spectacle (perhaps even a***og vs digital at large), a generational battle of some sort and parental questions regarding what can possibly make this singer my daughter loves so attractive? in a way the first act is about getting there, the butcher gets to go to her most intimate place, her dressing room, but then does the most desperate act thus far to preserve yes his freedom but also some sort of authority over his daughter's affection and this move is what causes his downfall because he'll find out that the secret of the Pop Star is genuinity (a stretch in the real world of course lmao but it's Shyamalan after all), something that he can't have bc of his double life

    in light of this Saleka's presence to me feels like Shyamalan telling us how happy he is to have found a way to make their respective interests collide rather than just plant her, tho that's inevitable

    side note the ig live scene i thought was cool how she uses the internal camera in contrast w the butcher who's always using the external one, pointing it somewhere else

    I didn't find the fryer cartoonish at all. I assumed it was a fire to divert attention and it went off like a IED and scarred that poor girl for life I'm sure. The shove down the steps was absurd in its callousness but not light and cartoony at all.

    You can obviously deconstruct the stuff Shyamalan did after the arena, but that doesn't justify the route the film takes. There is so much set up and probing and problem solving and nothing comes of it. It's a divisive decision to sell this movie on a situation it ultimately isn't very concerned with.

    And regardless of interpretation or preference, Saleka is a week screen presence. I found her piano ballad and her general appearance being so retouched off putting. That is the opposite of the authenticity someone might appreciate in a pop persona. She doesn't actually feel real in any way besides her survival instincts.

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    I was so ready for the reveal that his wife was in on it in that scene he met her alone at the house. Something like the hostage they saved was hers and he’s been taking the blame for it. She relapsed after they promised that they would quit the butchering stuff to start a family. It wouldn’t make any sense but I was prepared for anything. The actual twist of her setting him up was pretty good imo

  • Sep 2, 2024

    Liked it about just as much on second watch, f***ing love that ending

  • Sep 2, 2024
    Block Muteson

    I didn't find the fryer cartoonish at all. I assumed it was a fire to divert attention and it went off like a IED and scarred that poor girl for life I'm sure. The shove down the steps was absurd in its callousness but not light and cartoony at all.

    You can obviously deconstruct the stuff Shyamalan did after the arena, but that doesn't justify the route the film takes. There is so much set up and probing and problem solving and nothing comes of it. It's a divisive decision to sell this movie on a situation it ultimately isn't very concerned with.

    And regardless of interpretation or preference, Saleka is a week screen presence. I found her piano ballad and her general appearance being so retouched off putting. That is the opposite of the authenticity someone might appreciate in a pop persona. She doesn't actually feel real in any way besides her survival instincts.

    how he manages to get into the kitchen and not be seen is absurd, the editing there makes it convincing but that's the point where the movie shows anything can happen, then i can understand being let down by the role reversal and everything that comes with that but it's a matter of expectations, like it was for glass

    i thought lady raven's decision to save the guy was believable so the movie def sold me on that lmao but i can see her doll like vibe ringing untrue

  • Block Muteson

    Trap kicks off like a level in a Hitman videogame. Social engineering leverages disguise, violence entails savvy, and navigation requires stealth. The ticking clock and spectacle are built into the premise. Concert footage cuts against head on dialogue trees with NPCs. The mammoth stature of an arena is set against close quarters and close calls.

    Shyamalan squanders this ripe scenario on a timeshare pitch. The closer his daughter gets to the camera, the more promises he asks of his audience. Promise to look past her poor acting. Promise that her piano lessons paid off. Promise that he will get to expand on the vagaries of this lore in subsequent films. This one doesn't even live up to its title.

    COMPARABLE
    Sudden Death (1995) <== Derogatory

    @Beach_kneega @XantaClaus @cody @NOONE @Sonyomom @TheTheoryIsYou @davey @BGFX @Mac_Wit_Da_Cheese @SOLARIS @Antidote @rhinocerosbeetle

    You are a good writer

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    HURRY UP BGFX
    https://twitter.com/paulatreideez/status/1831336138814177664

    Can’t believe this guy is about to voice Barney in the reboot series

  • Sep 5, 2024
    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Can’t believe this guy is about to voice Barney in the reboot series

    na that's awesome

  • Sep 10, 2024