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  • Sep 1
    shaleirose

    Nobody said Hawkgirl was being set up for a spin-off film. She is simply a member of the in-universe Justice League-lite team at the start of Superman

    its not even about a side movie or tv show. She is such a poorly written character already where in man of tomorrow they have to redeem her writing

  • Sep 1
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    mjpplus

    Why are we comparing James Gunn and Christopher Nolan?

    Because apparently it's okay for side characters in Nolan films to not have any character arcs whatsoever but if that happens in a comic book film then a cardinal sin has been committed

  • Sep 1
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    PUFF SHENRON

    Because gunn is building an expansive universe where all the characters are meant to be fleshed out and for us to care about them

    Not every character needs to be have a significant role in every project thats how you end up with homework

  • Sep 1
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    Oblivion X

    The movie is titled SUPERMAN, why should people come out this movie caring bout hawkgirl ? When she gets her own film or has a more significant role in another project can that happen

    lol her only next confirmed appearance is man of tomorrow

  • Sep 1
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    Oblivion X

    Not every character needs to be have a significant role in every project thats how you end up with homework

    I seriously don't get how they're pushing back on this. Do they really think every character in every good film EVER has a character arc?

  • Sep 1
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    Now its "why do we care characters have bad writing in a movie"

    all because some of us acknowledged superman was trying to do too much.

  • Sep 1
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    shaleirose

    I seriously don't get how they're pushing back on this. Do they really think every character in every good film EVER has a character arc?

    not even about an arc she is the weakest writing of the entire movie.

  • Sep 1
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    Oblivion X

    Not every character needs to be have a significant role in every project thats how you end up with homework

    we are saying she is one dimensional with no good writing or parts at all.....

  • Sep 1
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    HaroldsChicken

    lol her only next confirmed appearance is man of tomorrow

    "When" doesnt need to be a year after her first appearance lol

  • Sep 1
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    HaroldsChicken

    not even about an arc she is the weakest writing of the entire movie.

    How is she poorly written

  • Sep 1
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    shaleirose

    Because apparently it's okay for side characters in Nolan films to not have any character arcs whatsoever but if that happens in a comic book film then a cardinal sin has been committed

    oh you double downing on comparing to Nolan odyssey

  • Sep 1
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    Oblivion X

    "When" doesnt need to be a year after her first appearance lol

    I am saying she is already written into a hole

  • Sep 1
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    HaroldsChicken

    oh you double downing on comparing to Nolan odyssey

    Do you think every side character has an arc in The Odyssey?

  • Sep 1
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    shaleirose

    How is she poorly written

    Without googling tell me what you know about her or her character outside of a joke about their team name, screeching and killing the prime minister.

  • Sep 1
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    shaleirose

    Because apparently it's okay for side characters in Nolan films to not have any character arcs whatsoever but if that happens in a comic book film then a cardinal sin has been committed

    Ok yeah I think the arc a side character has totally depends on the film itself

    Like is it more an ensemble or a character study? Are you trying to build a world to live in? etc.

    Like did I need to know everything about Sarah Sherman's character in Camp Miasma? No. That character was so minor and not that connected to the story so I could kind of care less what happened to them. At the same time if they are vital to the core of the story then they should have something going on.

    I think Hawkgirl's role technically could've been done by any number of female B and C List DC heroines.

  • Sep 1
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    shaleirose

    Do you think every side character has an arc in The Odyssey?

    the characters in the odyssey are infinitely better written man...

  • Sep 1
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    HaroldsChicken

    we are saying she is one dimensional with no good writing or parts at all.....

    she killed a government leader

  • Sep 1
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    HaroldsChicken

    Now its "why do we care characters have bad writing in a movie"

    all because some of us acknowledged superman was trying to do too much.

    They was calling the movie peak

  • Sep 1
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    HaroldsChicken

    we are saying she is one dimensional with no good writing or parts at all.....

    Yes she is one dimensional, I dont think anyone is arguing against that.

    We're saying not all characters in a story needs to be three dimensional not all of them even need to be two dimensional. If every character in a story was multi dimensional that is what leads to crowding

  • HaroldsChicken

    Without googling tell me what you know about her or her character outside of a joke about their team name, screeching and killing the prime minister.

    What do you know about Dijon's character in One Battle After Another besides his favorite type of p****?

  • Sep 1
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    HaroldsChicken

    I am saying she is already written into a hole

    Why do you think that ?

  • Sep 1
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    ghosting

    she killed a government leader

    THAT IS THE ONLY THING SHE DOES WITH NO BUILD UP. NO true motivation given. They barely even wanted to go up that way but then she just does it and smirks like its nothing.

  • Sep 1
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    Oblivion X

    Yes she is one dimensional, I dont think anyone is arguing against that.

    We're saying not all characters in a story needs to be three dimensional not all of them even need to be two dimensional. If every character in a story was multi dimensional that is what leads to crowding

    Shaleirose is arguing against that and making excuses for that.

  • Sep 1
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    HaroldsChicken

    the characters in the odyssey are infinitely better written man...

    That's not what I asked.

    I asked you if you think every side character in The Odyssey has a character arc

  • Sep 1
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    Oblivion X

    Why do you think that ?

    she will have to be punished for killing that government official s*** she will likely be more punished than Lex who is teaming up with Superman and blew a mans brains out.

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