I get it; a better world starts with you.

There is truth to that but it’s not that simple.

If we put responsibility where it is due then we can start comparing managers and talk about it from there.

For starters managers with a great backing and structure above them can be held to account far better.

The manager holds HIS responsibility but it falls apart if the people above don’t take theirs cus it all trickles down and that responsibility should be assigned to the UPPER echelon, which we don’t like to do in society cus we feel powerless against big capital and we won’t fight for our values out of fear of losing something else (so those people fingerpointing you mentioned are not even really bout that life ultimately)

Instead we find it easier to moan and complain about the coach not taking ‘his responsibility’ when it is clearly a warped perspective on the whole

It’s lost a lot of its lustre for me. Maybe I’m getting old but I find the matches and new rising stars very dull these days.

I don’t really want to write an essay on this bc I’ll get carried away but I miss when we all knew less about what was going on - transfers, agent fees, rumours, twitter fingers. The spontaneity of news coming from within a club made it feel more special.

I also miss when players had more freedom to play their way. We’re coming up on 20 years since we had a Brazil national team that felt like a true Brazil. But now they transfer to Europe at 16/17 and have their eccentricities and flair coached out of them

Too much money to be made and that formula rarely favors the risk takers

Agreed with all of the above.

We’re finishing 10th lmao

Mateta hattrick incoming

Anybody equating the left and the right doesn’t understand oppression, but that’s not United thread talk.

football is a reflection of society

depends a lot on whether eze is fit imo . was out for the fulham game with a knee issue (and it showed) but i reckon he might be ready. him and olise are just a joy to watch together tbh, shame that these two had to reunite after injuries just in time for the anfield match lol.

these two together and especially eze’s distribution make even a bang average striker such as mateta shine, just imagine if these two had someone proper and more lethal up there with them, they’d be absolutely menacing (if healthy and fit)

he’s in a good form though so i can’t hate, wouldn’t surprise me if he manages to score one tomorrow i guess

That Eze goal was wild, they were doing triangles around you lot, with Maggy out we’re getting cooked I think. That fitness coach from arsenal needs to be thrown off the top of Old Trafford.

for me btw, its the fact that they're all just best friends and dont give a f*** as much. any challenge or hiccup, just b**** to the media or social media. going to rivals birthday parties.

its the same in most sports. look at F1 they all secretly know its a joke that they are paid this much and can't take it seriously to be actual rivals.

wasn't like this until 2010s.

Pack your bag f***er

if ETH goes, screw it give McKenna the job

Bundesliga is not serious man

I can’t believe they’ve reached a point where they’re letting Thomas Tuchel walk and are trying to replace him with vastly inferior managers like Lopetegui, Rangnick, ten Hag, Schmidt etc.

No way somebody is choosing West Ham over Bayern

Y’all really don’t grasp how important a good football/business structure is for managers.

Bayern, Ajax and United are all poorly run clubs atm making them vastly unpopular for most serious managers (well United is atleast going in the right direction rn)

Nobody wants to risk taking the brunt of criticism for poor management higher up

Palace Ball soon

And Liverpool, don’t they have a decent structure? They had to go with their 5th choice as well.

There is just a shortage of good managers atm, plus I feel l like good mid level managers like Emery, De Zerbi or Lopetegui aren’t inclined to go to Barca or Bayern anymore because they probably earn similar wages here in the prem while it’s 100 times less scrutiny.

Barca is poorly run as well. Great example btw.

Then you have Liverpool which is fairly well run albeit somewhat budgetting aggressively at times.

Yes there are less options nowadays on the manager market and yes the amount of scrutiny plays a role but you simply cannot dismiss the way a manager will judge a club structure in his decision making

Not looking forward to tonight

Play the youth man

ETH said no United manager other than mourinho got the players he wanted 😂😂

F***ing moron man

He’s ed

No United manager has gotten their players more than him. F*** me I can’t wait till he’s fired so depressing having these lies every week literally feels like we’re supporting trump in here.