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  • Feb 18
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    Amorim should stay at least for this season to experiment. We are not going to get any international placements anyway. A new coach won't magically change this trajectory.

    If Amorim somehow finds a way to make this squad work in the next couple months and go on a run, we could have a conversation about not sacking him. Otherwise he should be sacked after this season

    Plus, as many have said the squad is dogshit. I don't think many coaches could make a squad like this work besides defensive coaches like Southgate. But I also don't want to live in a world where ManU plays this type of ball

  • Abyss

    Amorim should stay at least for this season to experiment. We are not going to get any international placements anyway. A new coach won't magically change this trajectory.

    If Amorim somehow finds a way to make this squad work in the next couple months and go on a run, we could have a conversation about not sacking him. Otherwise he should be sacked after this season

    Plus, as many have said the squad is dogshit. I don't think many coaches could make a squad like this work besides defensive coaches like Southgate. But I also don't want to live in a world where ManU plays this type of ball

    Sounds like a great idea to sack the guy you acknowledge you brought in too early, without any players that suit the system you brought him in for

    It's like buying a Blu-Ray player and selling it because all of your existing VHS tapes don't play on it

  • Abyss

    Amorim should stay at least for this season to experiment. We are not going to get any international placements anyway. A new coach won't magically change this trajectory.

    If Amorim somehow finds a way to make this squad work in the next couple months and go on a run, we could have a conversation about not sacking him. Otherwise he should be sacked after this season

    Plus, as many have said the squad is dogshit. I don't think many coaches could make a squad like this work besides defensive coaches like Southgate. But I also don't want to live in a world where ManU plays this type of ball

    I agree with you. The question is if Amorim will get the funds in summer to build the squad in the direction he wants to. I doubt it because they will probably not give him full reign and trust him at that point if the performance stays the same throughout the season as it is now.

    The question is give him a couple more years with the possibility to end up in an ETH situation with nothing to show for after years or hire a new coach (who will most likely fail with this squad again)? Either way its not looking good

  • Feb 18
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    Grenouille

    For me it’s like this: I just fail to see how if we finish 16th; fail to win Europa; fail to win the FA cup; there is any chance of succession here long term for this manager.

    Our budget is already slashed - and will be hampered more by lack of European football. Amorim has already proven he cannot improve the players he already has at his disposal. We will most likely sign — at MAX — around 3-4 first team players.

    What are we expecting here? Is he going to go from 16th one season to back to competing the next?

    The only piece of momentum that can salvage something is a fugazi cup win. Otherwise I really don’t understand what we’re doing here.

    And don’t get me wrong I do like Amorim and think he seems like a nice chap with a good philosophy about the game, but it’s a results business, dawg. Can’t have Man Utd hold 17+ losses in one season and call it a day and say we go again.

    Nottingham forest finished 17th last year like 6 points above relegation. Not expecting him to challenge next year but if we buy smartly (big if, admittedly) we could absolutely lay a foundation for long term success.

  • Feb 18
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    Moon

    Nottingham forest finished 17th last year like 6 points above relegation. Not expecting him to challenge next year but if we buy smartly (big if, admittedly) we could absolutely lay a foundation for long term success.

    Fair point. We could, or we could go into next season with further solidified mediocrity.

    I don’t know, maybe I’m being too negative. I want to be positive about Amorim. I kind of like the guy (unlike ten Hag), I just can’t see anything in the fundamentals of what a coach should do in actually coaching what’s already at the club. Only player who has improved is Amad, and that’s more just because he’s the greatest player of all time and ten Hag didn’t play him for some reason.

    I know, the majority of our players are the worst ever humans to grace this earth and Dalot should be tried for crimes against humanity etc. but I can’t just look at us lose double the amount of games we win the PL under this manager and see an end result where things turn peachy

    Just too jaded I think

  • Feb 18
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    Undun

    i'm just smile and waving like the penguins from madagascar at this point

    we say its on the players every time, we invest in some new players who at the time we are hyped for then they s*** the bed for us go elsewhere and shine apart from sancho he's just dog water

    we bring these managers in because of their 'philosophy' 'style of play' and NEVER see it the only manager who had us playing in a system other than counter attacking was LVG but that was zzzzz

    and now Ineos looking like glazers 2.0 cutting costs hiring and sacking directors making stupid decisions

    s*** looks so bleak i cba anymore

    If we’re being real we probably see us back to old levels until we’re all in our 40s

    All logging on to the KTT46 meet up when we win our next PL title all married and s*** (apart from Oblivion who has a different random 20 year old Korean woman as his avatar)

  • Feb 18
    Grenouille

    Fair point. We could, or we could go into next season with further solidified mediocrity.

    I don’t know, maybe I’m being too negative. I want to be positive about Amorim. I kind of like the guy (unlike ten Hag), I just can’t see anything in the fundamentals of what a coach should do in actually coaching what’s already at the club. Only player who has improved is Amad, and that’s more just because he’s the greatest player of all time and ten Hag didn’t play him for some reason.

    I know, the majority of our players are the worst ever humans to grace this earth and Dalot should be tried for crimes against humanity etc. but I can’t just look at us lose double the amount of games we win the PL under this manager and see an end result where things turn peachy

    Just too jaded I think

    And maybe I’m being too much of an optimist

    Fully agree he should be coaching the players that are here though some of these lot might really be unsalvageable.

  • Grenouille

    If we’re being real we probably see us back to old levels until we’re all in our 40s

    All logging on to the KTT46 meet up when we win our next PL title all married and s*** (apart from Oblivion who has a different random 20 year old Korean woman as his avatar)

  • Grenouille

    If we’re being real we probably see us back to old levels until we’re all in our 40s

    All logging on to the KTT46 meet up when we win our next PL title all married and s*** (apart from Oblivion who has a different random 20 year old Korean woman as his avatar)

    Man Utd KTT thread in 2045

  • Grenouille

    For me it’s like this: I just fail to see how if we finish 16th; fail to win Europa; fail to win the FA cup; there is any chance of succession here long term for this manager.

    Our budget is already slashed - and will be hampered more by lack of European football. Amorim has already proven he cannot improve the players he already has at his disposal. We will most likely sign — at MAX — around 3-4 first team players.

    What are we expecting here? Is he going to go from 16th one season to back to competing the next?

    The only piece of momentum that can salvage something is a fugazi cup win. Otherwise I really don’t understand what we’re doing here.

    And don’t get me wrong I do like Amorim and think he seems like a nice chap with a good philosophy about the game, but it’s a results business, dawg. Can’t have Man Utd hold 17+ losses in one season and call it a day and say we go again.

    Thing is, without Amad there’s no way in hell we fluke the europa league.

  • Finishing 16th and getting champions league would be pure comedy though

  • Feb 19
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    Varane on ten hag

    nytimes.com/athletic/6145061/2025/02/19/raphael-varane-manchester-united-erik-ten-hag

    “It was very tense at times. Sometimes he made an effort to listen to the players’ feedback. Sometimes he made decisions without listening to the players’ feelings. So there were ups and downs. It was complicated at times.”

    “We had a robust discussion. We told each other some truths but then I didn’t play for almost two months. I said I didn’t agree with certain ways of doing things regarding the relationship between him and the team. It wasn’t something that I thought was good for the team because some of the players were not at all satisfied. It was not good in terms of the relationship with the coach. He said ‘OK, I hear what you said’ and after that I didn’t play."

    "He wanted to gain respect through fear, perhaps. He always needed an example of a player who was alone the entire time he was at Manchester. He did that with at least one important player on the team. He was always in conflict with certain leaders of the group. That is his way of managing.”

  • Feb 19
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    Over a billion in debt we did it!!!!!!

  • madison beer guy

    Over a billion in debt we did it!!!!!!

    At least Jim's a local lad

  • Feb 19
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    If you’re looking for blame it’s bigger than INEOS or Amorim

  • Feb 19
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    trouttreghorst
    https://twitter.com/lauriewhitwell/status/1892209162064363903

    If you’re looking for blame it’s bigger than INEOS or Amorim

    I can’t believe they’re still allowed to get away with it. It’s literally not possible to do what they did again

    Pretty sure they break PL laws, you name it

  • Feb 19
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    Jesus. Glazers bought you with borrowed money, put the debt in the club and sat on it for decades to where you’re worse than broke. I’m a s***poster but I legitimately feel bad for your fans. going to games every week to support the club they love not knowing it was secretly imploding from the inside.

    I don’t know if it will do anything but this is the kinda thing you protest for. Like a serious protest.

  • KingOfPop

    I can’t believe they’re still allowed to get away with it. It’s literally not possible to do what they did again

    Pretty sure they break PL laws, you name it

    wouldn’t pass the fit and proper test these days, also illegal to do in sport in America

  • Puffy

    Jesus. Glazers bought you with borrowed money, put the debt in the club and sat on it for decades to where you’re worse than broke. I’m a s***poster but I legitimately feel bad for your fans. going to games every week to support the club they love not knowing it was secretly imploding from the inside.

    I don’t know if it will do anything but this is the kinda thing you protest for. Like a serious protest.

    Not only that, but they continued to take well over 1 billion in dividends while increasing our debt via high interest loans for transfers.

    All for the privilege of being owned by Americans who live thousands of miles away, rarely attend matches and communicated with the fans for the first time after a failed attempt to join the European Super League

  • madison beer guy

    Over a billion in debt we did it!!!!!!

    over a billion in interest payments alone

  • Feb 19
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    MiniVan

    Varane on ten hag

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6145061/2025/02/19/raphael-varane-manchester-united-erik-ten-hag/

    “It was very tense at times. Sometimes he made an effort to listen to the players’ feedback. Sometimes he made decisions without listening to the players’ feelings. So there were ups and downs. It was complicated at times.”

    “We had a robust discussion. We told each other some truths but then I didn’t play for almost two months. I said I didn’t agree with certain ways of doing things regarding the relationship between him and the team. It wasn’t something that I thought was good for the team because some of the players were not at all satisfied. It was not good in terms of the relationship with the coach. He said ‘OK, I hear what you said’ and after that I didn’t play."

    "He wanted to gain respect through fear, perhaps. He always needed an example of a player who was alone the entire time he was at Manchester. He did that with at least one important player on the team. He was always in conflict with certain leaders of the group. That is his way of managing.”

    So it wasn’t just the media and fans he antagonized

  • trouttreghorst
    !https://youtu.be/gwKfTViCRrg?si=VqPAL1rVy0-2hHef

    Really hope this protest on the 9th is decent

  • Feb 20

    The last one

    Asking for pep to be sacked after one bad season is ludicrous and really says it all about modern day fans