DwindlingSun

5y

I get where your trepidations are coming from. But I think there's some misconceptions there.

To preface this, I have only seen Ten Hag's Ajax teams. Anything regarding Utrecht I've only read up on.

Ten Hag isn't an inflexible, Ajax only style manager. At Utrecht they chopped and changed from the standard Dutch 4-3-3. He played 5-3-2 and 4-4-2 diamonds. It wasn't always pretty football, it was tailored to the individuals.

Our club at its core has 2 principles, these have not changed:
1) Youth development
2) Entertaining, attacking football

Both of these are elements that Ten Hag is completely aligned with.

His concepts aren't that foreign or groundbreaking in this day and age. They are certainly all elements that our recent managers have at times attempted to implement. And elements that SAF strongly believed in.

• build from the back
• control possession
• wide players stretch the opposition
• fluid front 3
• aggressive press upon losing the ball
• quick, precise, short passes

Our infrastructure has had, and likely continues to have, its flaws. But it does genuinely seem like there's an effort to correct course. The DOF restructuring over the summer, scouting overhaul, facilities improvement. One thing that has always remained a constant is focus on the academy.

And yeah it's easy to say well Ajax players are indoctrinated in that style - but you're overlooking all the crucial players who aren't.

Frenkie De Jong wasn't an Ajax academy kid. They brought him in at 18 (technically 19 cause he was loaned back to Willem initially). Dusan Tadic was in the running for the ballon d'or under him. David Neres joined from Sau Paulo. Tagliafico and Alvarez from Argentina.

Players can and should improve. Their strengths and weaknesses aren't static presets. Professionals will work hard and understand well executed instructions. Especially professionals like Ronaldo and Varane. Pogba is likely gone anyway.

The core of our squad is still young. Players like Shaw, Sancho, Rashford, Bruno are all very capable of quick passing games. We see it on plenty of our attacks down the left wing. Its why I suspect players like Sancho and VDB haven't been successful so far in whatever the hell system we try and play. They're also capable of pressing, we see glimpses of it when we suddenly decide to start playing after conceding. We saw it in Ole's first few months here.

We're failing and will continue to fail because we are not well drilled tactically. Resting on our laurels because 'oh some of these guys might not get it' isn't a good enough reason. I can't wait for that teething period. It's necessary with whoever comes in. I'd rather it be him, having done it each summer Ajax get raided.

With Bayern having gone for Nagelsman, Barca in ruin, we have a very good chance imo at getting him this summer. And should absolutely take it.

Senior Intern

5y

Two points off top 🔥🔥🔥

Marble

5y

Could’ve been on top ffs

DEL634

5y

Brighton are a strong side and I'm impressed at the team's ability to have restricted their shots on target to a minimum. We got an important point in a tough away fixture against an opponent above us in the league table. The cornerstone of our team (Granit Xhaka) was also out injured, which makes it even all the more impressive in my eyes.

Marble

5y

Arsenal apologists are not welcome here. Y’all are trash and can’t convince me otherwise.

Marble

5y

Ten Hag is a good coach, but I can’t imagine Ten Hag stuttering some tactics to Ronaldo lmao. Man has 0 personality.

Marble

5y

Ten Hag is a good coach, but I can’t imagine Ten Hag stuttering some tactics to Ronaldo lmao. Man has 0 personality.

Root

5y

Zidane

Marble

5y

Would be the only viable option to me tbh. But Zidane isn’t really the most tactical of coaches either tho.

Root

5y

Zidane

DEL_DVYg

5y

Zizou or bring back Mou for another go after he wins serie a with Roma

Marble

5y

Ten Hag is a good coach, but I can’t imagine Ten Hag stuttering some tactics to Ronaldo lmao. Man has 0 personality.

DwindlingSun

5y

I get where your trepidations are coming from. But I think there's some misconceptions there.

To preface this, I have only seen Ten Hag's Ajax teams. Anything regarding Utrecht I've only read up on.

Ten Hag isn't an inflexible, Ajax only style manager. At Utrecht they chopped and changed from the standard Dutch 4-3-3. He played 5-3-2 and 4-4-2 diamonds. It wasn't always pretty football, it was tailored to the individuals.

Our club at its core has 2 principles, these have not changed:
1) Youth development
2) Entertaining, attacking football

Both of these are elements that Ten Hag is completely aligned with.

His concepts aren't that foreign or groundbreaking in this day and age. They are certainly all elements that our recent managers have at times attempted to implement. And elements that SAF strongly believed in.

• build from the back
• control possession
• wide players stretch the opposition
• fluid front 3
• aggressive press upon losing the ball
• quick, precise, short passes

Our infrastructure has had, and likely continues to have, its flaws. But it does genuinely seem like there's an effort to correct course. The DOF restructuring over the summer, scouting overhaul, facilities improvement. One thing that has always remained a constant is focus on the academy.

And yeah it's easy to say well Ajax players are indoctrinated in that style - but you're overlooking all the crucial players who aren't.

Frenkie De Jong wasn't an Ajax academy kid. They brought him in at 18 (technically 19 cause he was loaned back to Willem initially). Dusan Tadic was in the running for the ballon d'or under him. David Neres joined from Sau Paulo. Tagliafico and Alvarez from Argentina.

Players can and should improve. Their strengths and weaknesses aren't static presets. Professionals will work hard and understand well executed instructions. Especially professionals like Ronaldo and Varane. Pogba is likely gone anyway.

The core of our squad is still young. Players like Shaw, Sancho, Rashford, Bruno are all very capable of quick passing games. We see it on plenty of our attacks down the left wing. Its why I suspect players like Sancho and VDB haven't been successful so far in whatever the hell system we try and play. They're also capable of pressing, we see glimpses of it when we suddenly decide to start playing after conceding. We saw it in Ole's first few months here.

We're failing and will continue to fail because we are not well drilled tactically. Resting on our laurels because 'oh some of these guys might not get it' isn't a good enough reason. I can't wait for that teething period. It's necessary with whoever comes in. I'd rather it be him, having done it each summer Ajax get raided.

With Bayern having gone for Nagelsman, Barca in ruin, we have a very good chance imo at getting him this summer. And should absolutely take it.

O7OXO

5y

I've seen this but I don't understand why people say this. I checked his interviews and he speaks English well enough. I don't think anyone in the team should have an ego about his tactics when his Ajax team has gone further than most of our players in the cl. Ronaldo even got trashed by his team

Marble

5y

It’s not his English, it’s more the way he talks in general. Even in Dutch he mumbles and stutters a lot, that’s no problem if you’re mainly coaching young players at Ajax, but it’s a whole different story with superstars at United like Bruno Ronaldo and Pogba. If results aren’t good he’ll lose the locker room in an instant.

O7OXO

5y

Where you getting this information from. I'm curious cause the video I watched of him he didn't struggle with stuttering

Marble

5y

I see a lot of his press conferences here, cus they be shown a lot on most football shows in Holland. Many ppl also making fun over here about his speaking abilities.

DEL_DVYg

5y

Zizou or bring back Mou for another go after he wins serie a with Roma

Senior Intern

5y

Two points off top 🔥🔥🔥

Senior Intern

5y

Midfield sorted 🔥🔥🔥