That's f***ed

Our very own baldy

no shock the ten Hag announcement comes in conjunction with the year anniversary of the European Super League

1.1b taken out of MUFC since the Glazer takeover, no evidence they've spent their own money on the club, except of course

Unbelievable how far Pochettino's reputation has fallen

I think that is an extremely reductive view - and inherently contradictory in certain aspects. On the one hand you want a manager to be fully backed, but at the same time you want a DoF in place even when the manager hasn't.

Thinking about things contextually, in 2013 there was no appetite for Manchester United to have a DoF. We were a club with probably the most autocratic manager in world football. That was the only model United knew - the fans, pundits, Glazers. The idea of pivoting away from that would have sent alarm bells ringing through anyone's head.

Football shouldn't be the priority of the Glazers. I don't want an owner who feels it's their job to get involved in all of the clubs affairs - plenty do and feel it's their right to go and step in the dressing room when they want. I barely want to hear a peep from owners - they should make the right appointments at a high-level and provide funding, that's it.

There's a lot of hindsight here. You were loving life under Ole defended him at every chance you got. The idea of a massive overhaul this summer wasn't even on your radar. But now s***'s hit the fan you wanna say football wasn't prioritized.

On Moyes, he got a squad that had won the league and drove them to 7th. He let his ego get in the way, got rid of key staff, alienated players, and dawdled in the transfer market. Mata and Fellaini weren't forced on him. They were panic buys that Woodward facilitated - because at Manchester United the model is that the managers word is final.

On Van Gaal, he wasn't good enough. He can whinge about not getting all the players he wanted, well tough luck, that's football. He got plenty of players that he did want, he spent a ton of money. Some on very promising players - Depay, Schniederlen, Darmian. That he couldn't get the best out of them, well that's on him.

In that article he's complaining about pre-season tours to USA, it's utter bollocks. We're not the only big team that goes there for pre-season. It's a s*** excuse. We went there under Sir Alex too.

Signing a player is always a gamble - there's an abundance of factors which are gonna dictate whether they're successful or not. But it should be a calculated gamble. Some of these players that got brought in were just braindead decisions. Scouts can do all they like but if the manager is insisting on Schweinsteiger and Mata and Matic then its pointless.

And this view of Van Gaal that 'United can buy anyone' and therefore we should. It's not what this club is about. We're not Madrid that we're buying galacticos. I don't wanna support a PSG or City. We build teams here - young, likeable, promising players. When him and Mourinho talk its always 'oh I didn't get the players I want'. F***ing develop players man. The best signings are the likes of Park Ji-Sung, Vidic, Evra. But all these managers wanted a shortcut - Van Gaal could have had Mane, he wanted f***ing Neymar instead. Moyes could have had Herrera, he wanted Fabregas. It's braindead.

But again, if you want a manager backed then that means signing off on those decisions. If you want an owner that is prioritizing football and involved, then you're gonna undercut the manager aren't you.

Ten Hag is essentially the first post-SAF manager that is actually comfortable giving up some autocracy. And thus you have a motion towards a structure.

I would pretty comfortably say that not a single manager we've sacked, nor 'project' we've scrapped (if you can even call them projects) has been a wrong decision. If anything, Ole's sacking happened far too late. So again, if you want things to be football first, well those are the football first decisions.

I agree with you every sacking has been justified, but not a single manager was set up for long term success.

I want:
a manager to be backed financially
a structure in place that will allow him to spend those finances in a manner that makes sense for the long term success of the squad/club (DoF)

Both are possible

It should not take a decade after SAF to appoint a director of football if you’re the largest club in the world.

Who appointed Ed Woodward?

Who gave Ole Gunnar Solskjaer that three year contract?

re:LVG vs Mourinho is the great example of the Glazers ineptitude. Two vastly ends of the spectrum in how they manage, and develop players which you pointed out.

I completely agree in regards to the Galticos thing though, under Sir Alex the ethos was much more about building up young players, while consistently adding competition to the players who were at their peak/prime in the squad. I hope we return to that

Football should be a priority of the Glazers, they own the biggest football club in the world.

The Glazer’s have not spent their money on the club

They’ve spent the club’s revenue

The Glazer's have taken 1.1b out in dividends

You said ole don’t deserve that contract after getting us to 3rd and 2nd?

It a f***ing business not a charity glazer priority is to make money why are you putting the blame on them and act like we didn’t spend the most money in the last decade

Man want our club to run like chelsea and city where the owner is willing to spend billions out of their own pockets to win trophy this is not how it work for most club that own by normal business people

I think we should adopt a fan owned mode similar to 50+1

MUFC is a 140+ year old institution of English football, the Glazers are custodians to the club.

This was the first communication they had with supporters in 16 years

They’re spending club revenue not their own capital. That money should have been invested regardless

Sucks that he essentially wasted his prime in a situation that didn't work for us or him.

Doesn’t help he’s like the most injure prone player too.

Need 4 new midfielders to come in

F*** this bullshit man

Can’t wait for the season to be over

waking up for this game was the biggest L since me reverting my decision post-Atletico to not watch any games until the end of the season

United haven't done anything with CL qualification these last for years for me to think it's a huge loss. The embarrassment of the last week might be worse tbh

Stuck with Bruno Fernandes for the next 5 years. This is Allah’s punishment for Magazza breaking Pogba’s fast

The tie vs Athletico really set the mood for the rest of the season

1. Ronaldo should've taken that penalty.

2. How is that not a penalty against Elanga?

I can't believe Scholes, GNev, Fergie etc are still allowed to have access to the innerworkings of the club. That's one of the first things I address if I'm Ten Hag