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    Peep the scaffolding/nighttime background/scars on Peter


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    Also the Iron Spider suit was cleverly added on for the Statue of Liberty scene in the trailer to not give away any hints about the final battle. We know Doc Ock dismantles the suit on the bridge and the arms absorb the nanotech which is earlier in the film

    UPDATE: I was wrong that isn’t the Iron Spider suit in the Statue of Liberty shots, it’s his new NEW suit

    Now I’m wondering why he’s wearing the black/red FFH suit in the three Spideys pic given him turning that suit inside out is a plot point in the film (unless they used the FFH suit during filming as a foundation for the new NEW suit cgi over it)

    UPDATE #2: ??????

  • Nov 17, 2021
    BRAVE

    Peep the scaffolding/nighttime background/scars on Peter


    oh yea

    it’s all coming together

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    BRAVE

    Peep the scaffolding/nighttime background/scars on Peter


    but the suit looks different

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    Am I in hell

  • Nov 17, 2021
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    but the suit looks different

    homie said in the post right below it that they edited it

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    Kingpin when

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    why does he have to lose aunt may too

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    dam it should be MJ. I guess since they skipped the uncle ben storyline, aunt may gonna have to substitute

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    aww man i’m finna have sum tears smh

  • Ima weep like a baby if aunt may dies tbh

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    Also the she hulk rumors probably true she’s a huge thot in the comics

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    Wait can someone remind me why Peter decides to free his ops?

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    I still think it’s cheap having ain’t May die for Peter to have more character development

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    Really hope Tobey and Andrew aren’t only in the final act and we get to know a little about them and how their series ended

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    NWH A PLOT AND B PLOT THEORY

    (This will be long so I don’t expect any of you to read the whole thing, just come back after December 17th to see if any of this came true - which it probably won’t but f*** it this is for fun)


    Given we have a general sense of the plot for NWH less than a month away, as well as pretty much every major plot point, I was puzzled as to why the story elements still seemed like a mess to me when bringing them together. I’m also pretty into trying to figure out the A story and B story of this film. But after a little referring to my storytelling and screenwriting knowledge, I’m 99% sure I get how it all comes together. ⛔️ SPOILER WARNING BUT YOURE ALREADY HERE SO 🤷‍♀️

    We know the A story of NWH’s plot is solving Peter’s identity issues both literally and figuratively, and the B story is sending the Furious Five back to their original universes. While the midpoint is when the A story and B story come to a head, there is an aspect of the plot that provides why the A story and B story can even come to a head in the first place. My first question was ”what aspect of the plot makes it so the A story can clash with the B story in a logical way?”

    I got stuck, and this is when I referred to another MCU superhero team up film featuring a magical cube macguffin that opens a portal on the top of a tower in New York with a green-clad grinning main villain for some answers: The Avengers. In The Avengers, the A story is stopping Loki and the B story is assembling the Avengers. While stopping a mischievous God has no inherent relation to assembling a team of special individuals, they can form relation in the plot because they are both the interests of Nick Fury, and he plans on using one as a solution to solve the problem of the other. In NWH, it becomes clear that Doctor Strange is why resolving Peter’s identity issues can form relation to sending the Furious Five back to their original timelines, as his sorcery is used to fix one issue while it allows for the other issue to arise.

    In the A story of The Avengers (stopping Loki), there is an immediate potential danger; Loki stealing the Tesseract, and a big picture potential danger; Loki using the Tesseract to bring an army of Chitauri to Earth in order to conquer it. Once the immediate potential danger of the A story happens in the set up when Loki does in fact steal the Tesseract - turning Clint Barton into his puppet in the process - the clock is ticking for the big picture potential danger of Loki using the Tesseract for world domination to come to fruition. The immediate potential danger of the A story in NWH is Spider-Man’s identity remaining public knowledge, and the big picture potential danger is the endangerment of the universe and a supervillain using the knowledge of his secret identity to attack his loved ones…or worse. Due to Doctor Strange’s spell to make the world forget Spider-Man’s secret identity being botched, these potential dangers damaging the universe as well as endangering Spider-Man’s loved ones is an even greater possibility with alternate universe Spider-Man villains now out there who know his secret identity - especially the Green Goblin. We’ll get to him later.

    This big picture danger becoming a real possibility is also why the B story becomes a goal: why Nick Fury decides to begin assembling his team, and why the Furious Five must be collected to be sent back to their original universes. However, something gets in the way in the pursuit of achieving the main goal of the B story, which is a problem as it opens the door for the bigger potential danger of the A story to truly come to light. In The Avengers, our protagonists have no interest in becoming the Avengers, which is a problem because it allows for Loki to come closer to securing world domination. Due to Peter being convinced by Norman Osborn to free the Furious Five in NWH, Peter does as much and inadvertently allows for the potential big picture danger of the A story to come true.

    It is at the midpoint that the shortcoming of the B story fully brings the danger of the A story to fruition, thus the original goal of the B story is also forced to come to fruition in order to resolve the plot at the end of the climax. The midpoint of The Avengers sees the bickering of the to-be team, effectively lowering their defenses and making the Helicarrier vulnerable to an explosive attack set in motion by Loki (the midpoints of The Dark Knight and The Winter Soldier also come to explosive points). After Loki escapes, the team is apart, and beloved POV character Phil Coulson has died at the hands of Loki. If the heroes were more interested in actually working as a team, aka in line with the goal of the B story, would the Helicarrier have been as vulnerable to Loki’s attack and led to the death of Phil Coulson? If Peter didn’t prevent the banishment of the Furious Five, would a Norman Osborn in Goblin mode who was moments away from his death be present, allowing for Osborn’s inevitable switch to Goblin mode at Happy’s apartment - the same Goblin mode that made Osborn hellbent on attacking Peter’s heart - and lead to Goblin killing Aunt May (in yet another explosive way)?

    This leads us to the second half of the second act where Ned brings the Petes in and they need to figure out how to solve the villains issue (like The Avengers need to put their heads together to stop Loki/Chitauri after the second half of the second act). We’ll probably get some science bro stuff here with the three Peters

    Now that the midpoint has brought the A story and B story to a head, the conclusion will see the effect of the two stories coming together. This is where my thinking that the spell will be completed by way of everyone forgetting Peter rather than Spider-Man comes in (but I need to think about it more, so I’m definitely gonna update later itt with my thoughts on that ending). But I will say: the world forgetting Peter is a perfect marriage of this particular A story and B story and leads to the next era of Spidey seamlessly. Speaking of seams, we’re DEFINITELY getting a new red/blue suit made by Peter with a traditional end swing (Idk why this hasn’t been leaked yet maybe it doesn’t happen but IT HAS TO, only makes sense)

    BONUS PREDICTIONS

    • Much like others have predicted, Andrew saves MJ (maybe Tom gets hit mid-air by the Glider since this moment should be referencing the Goblin being responsible for Gwens death), and when he sees she’s safe it’s a beautifully touching moment that calls back to Andrew not being able to save Gwen
    • given what the leaks allude to about Peter’s selflessness being a throughline in the film…hes trying to cure them (but then again Marvel villains die a lot so I’m ready to be disappointed if they don’t go the cure route)
    • Tobey jumps in front of the glider when Goblin tries to kill Tom with it as a callback to Harry sacrificing himself for Peter (which itself is a callback to Goblin’s death…see where I’m going??) BUT Tobey doesn’t die which is good đź‘Ť
      EDIT: there’s NO WAY Tobey (or Andrew) gets hurt disregard that lol
    • less of a prediction and moreso just my screenwriter brain saying what should happen: if the world still knows Peter is Spidey, we should get a scene during the final battle where Peter broadcasts himself to NY like he was broadcasted at the beginning when he was being framed for Mysterio’s death. Nice full circle moment and it shows Spidey having the city on his side. Not likely tho cause I’d imagine this moment would be in leaks
    • Harry and Gwen are at the end of the movie to tease the college trilogy, but in a Thanos at the end of Avengers sorta way

    Edit: after rewatching the trailer AGAIN, Doc Ock helps the Spideys out in the third act (referring to my most recent post on page 84 pointing out Ock vs Electro at Happys apartment at the midpoint so go check that out). We may get a touching reunion moment between Ock seeing his Peter - brilliant but lazy - grown up, now fighting by his side

  • Nov 17, 2021

    Pls no she’s so sexy

  • Nov 17, 2021

    So all the major leaks are confirmed true by this trailer

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    oh this will hit harder than videogame Peter refusing to give aunt may the vaccine

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    I think this is at Happy thus him staring blankly into the camera like "this is it"