i think its because the newer ones remove a lot of what make him appealing while introducing new things i.e. everyperson struggle to make money and a s***ty boss, maintaining anonymity with those closest to him, etc
by comparison to goblin and doc oc, hollands villains don't have as close of a relationship with him, (which is fine a lot of spidey villains don't but theres a loss of psychological tension), theres less tension since aunt may knows his identity, and he doesn't quite have to balance making it work in the city cus he kind has money.
So even though he experiences a lot... there is a loss of certain characteristics though his comradery with mj n ned are cool, a loss of tension in maintaining his secret identity, the horror element/fear on display when fighting villains (to their death lol), and i think they could do a slightly better job of displaying the psychology of the character. but he's mostly a kid in his films, and earnest and positive. just a different weight and tone.
i still wanna see this again tho!
This is a very good point
i think its because the newer ones remove a lot of what make him appealing while introducing new things i.e. everyperson struggle to make money and a s***ty boss, maintaining anonymity with those closest to him, etc
by comparison to goblin and doc oc, hollands villains don't have as close of a relationship with him, (which is fine a lot of spidey villains don't but theres a loss of psychological tension), theres less tension since aunt may knows his identity, and he doesn't quite have to balance making it work in the city cus he kind has money.
So even though he experiences a lot... there is a loss of certain characteristics though his comradery with mj n ned are cool, a loss of tension in maintaining his secret identity, the horror element/fear on display when fighting villains (to their death lol), and i think they could do a slightly better job of displaying the psychology of the character. but he's mostly a kid in his films, and earnest and positive. just a different weight and tone.
i still wanna see this again tho!
I consider Vulture just as connected to Peter as Ock and Goblin. Just because he’s after Stark tech doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a connection
If we remember, Goblin’s motives were against the Oscorp com that kicked him out and Spidey got in the way. Connected to Peter through a school friend
Vulture’s motives against the Stark company that took his job and Spidey got in the way. Connected to Peter through a school friend
Also Green Goblin and Dr Ock are beat for beat the same origin. Peter mentor figure and scientist who turns evil after an experiment gone wrong. Not actually evil but mind is controlled
spider man 1 and 2 still clear all mcu spidey movies as movies for me
Brand New Day is the first mcu spider man movie where I can say it balances all elements I would want well. its what I have wanted from them for a while. Especially when they said no origin. I think the entire homecoming trilogy is an origin story
Yeah it’s a fair take to take to prefer the Rami movies, I guess I don’t get with the narrative that they are the definitive Spidey movies ever
This s*** was peak don’t quote me , top two spider man movie and not two.
I agree with you but watch saying that around certain old unc users itt!!
This s*** was peak don’t quote me , top two spider man movie and not two.
Yeah it’s a fair take to take to prefer the Rami movies, I guess I don’t get with the narrative that they are the definitive Spidey movies ever
I think because the nail all the elements of what it means to be spider man as a character . Is that comic panels or perfect action ? No but all other Elements they nail including villains . Wish Harry hobgoblin was better but they are that good .
Again as I mentioned if this mcu spider man introduced more spider man characters, Peter friends , he got a job , scoop existed , j Jonah more than a joke I could lean more this way
I mean scorpion in this movie is an after thought . Tombstone an after thought . They hyped up this “ it’s a villain you haven’t seen or we haven’t shown “
This s*** was peak don’t quote me , top two spider man movie and not two.
If someone has it as their top I’m not mad at it
But yall have genuinely said every single spider man movie is the top for 9 years . This is the first live action wise where it’s possibly deserving
When the writing , plot and dialogue gets a bit better it will easily be best . The reason many are saying the best lies more in fan service than writing to me . This was a big improvement from others though
pattinson gonna have the better hit ratio imo
Prime time slept on
Was trying to find the KTT1 threads for the old movies and the old ways were so barbaric
kanyetothe.com/threads/spider-man-3-july-16-2021-spidey-back-in-the-mcu.2580385/page-199#replies
One thread for the whole trilogy and just update it each time
Was trying to find the KTT1 threads for the old movies and the old ways were so barbaric
https://www.kanyetothe.com/threads/spider-man-3-july-16-2021-spidey-back-in-the-mcu.2580385/page-199#replies
One thread for the whole trilogy and just update it each time
I’m on page 1
So spoiler talk in here?
So spoiler talk in here?
Yes
So spoiler talk in here?
I’d still use spoiler tags, some people might come in looking for reactions
Also Green Goblin and Dr Ock are beat for beat the same origin. Peter mentor figure and scientist who turns evil after an experiment gone wrong. Not actually evil but mind is controlled
yea i give that a pass cus theres some seperation. its also how it is in the comics too
a lot of this has more to do with aesthetic/visuals/color grading , tone. and execution. i loveeeeeee vulture
So spoiler talk in here?
pretty much i gave up on tagging