It’s 2/10 in terms of a Spider-Man story at best man. I really can’t think of anything satisfying about the story and the writing is just abysmal throughout

I don’t think I’ve ever actively hated playing a game more than SM2. Biggest gaming disappointment of all time for me

lucky you then, musta not played much games

Cyberpunk2077 the biggest disappointment for me recently

What is this revisionist history

Sequel was great

I usually avoid games that look shaky. I only buy on release if I’m sure it’s gonna be good. I thought for sure SM2 would be a slam dunk. I mean, how can you mess up venom and kraven? But nah, they did it anyways

Years after it released I actually played cyberpunk and it’s one of my favorite games of that gen lol

Gameplay and graphics were definitely great. Everything else was boo boo

got some criticisms for sure but this is also the most hype game drop of the decade for me so far

I’m not deciding consensus here. I knew it was dogshit the moment I finished it. Never deleted a game so quick. I didn’t even go for the platinum lol. Ive always been consistent in that

I do think that the actual general consensus was that the game’s story was utterly disappointing

It was a hype drop until it actually dropped then it came n went since the game was bad

I wouldn't say bad, just more of the same. Like it did everything the first game did and people loved that

It just forgot to take it up a notch. So it was kinda disappointing.

Idk man if it were simply more of the same it wouldn’t be that bad, but there were just so many s*** writing decisions, boring forced walking sections taking away from the good gameplay, awful character dialogue, forced boring miles story taking up half the game, wasted opportunities, wasted kraven, completely wasted and rushed venom and more

It feels like they took a massive step back in every way besides gameplay, graphics and traversal. I could spend all day picking this game apart. I truly hate it.

Need that venom game asap

When did people stop playing games for the gameplay

Gameplay and graphics is like… 80% of a game’s quality

You’re right! Unfortunately in this case, at least 40% of this game is spent walking, sneaking as mj or doing some tedious non-Spider-Man activity. This game is constantly trying to rip control away from the player. Part of what makes the whole thing so frustrating to play.

I mean I guess once the game is done, you can swing around the empty map stopping petty crimes? Might be fun for 15 minutes idk

All that said, can we be real for a minute? At least 50% the reason we play these games are for story. If the story is not good, then the game can’t be higher than a 6/10. The raw gameplay itself is fun, but there is virtually no reason to keep playing this game after finishing the story unless I want to d*** around swinging for a few minutes. The side content is bland and shallow, much like the first game, and now this time around we don’t even have a good story to lean on! Fun gameplay is just not enough to carry this game. The gameplay isn’t even that amazing, it’s just pretty good for a Spider-Man game, so let’s not gas that too much either

There’s not a whole lot of gameplay to be found in this game unless you beat the story and focus on the boring side content. Everything is so on-rails in this game

Yall being snarky about gameplay when there’s not a whole lot to enjoy lmao just stop it

I’ll use Arkham knight as an example because it also has a weak story (not as bad as SM2 tho)

It has fully fleshed out combat and stealth systems, the world feels more alive, the side content ain’t perfect but feels like they at least tried instead of just slapping it on. Getting back to combat and stealth, part of the replayability comes from how much freedom you get while stealthing and clearing out bases. It’s almost reminiscent of MGS sometimes lol. A true Batman simulator. There’s actually a reason to keep playing beyond the story. THATS truly great gameplay, enough to outshine a weak story. SM2 has some added gadgets meant for open ended gameplay I guess? But it doesn’t feel nearly as polished and the enemy AI isn’t that great. The combat is just an upgraded version of already mediocre combat from the prior game. Simply not enough to carry an otherwise horrendous game

All that aside, Arkham knight is set in a new area built from scratch. Rocksteadys 3rd game ever, with a budget that’s probably 1/5 of SM2. And they still managed to achieve a hell of a lot with that game. It mostly stands the test of time.

SM2 is set in the exact same city. I’m not faulting the devs for this obviously. It’s Spider-Man, where else could it be set? My point is the game is pretty much partially built out already. Surely they could’ve dedicated a lot more resources to fleshing the world out? Or giving us substantial side content? Or a compelling story that’s not rushed? What were they doing all this time? 300M budget and we got a smaller, lower quality game with the only true upgrades being traversal and combat? Insomniac are industry vets. What happened? That’s my disappointment

They been doing this since the game awards 2023

We need to redefine what a bad game is because this isn't one of them

In my personal view, it’s a bad game because I hated it. Simple as that

Objectively speaking, it’s not bad but it’s definitely not a good game either. 5/10 is a fair score for this game and I’m not kidding. Gameplay is 7-8/10, graphics 8/10, story and writing are 1/10. Keep in mind all these categories aren’t weighted the same. This game is okay at best.

It was a letdown. But mostly all I like to do is swing around in the different suits.

Thats actually the only thing I really loved was the suits.

WE OUTSIDE OUTSIDE

peter and MJ in the first game were great, the whole argument about why they even broke up and peter essentially babying her was a good conflict and they worked it out well by the end of the game

the second one, they’re perfectly fine until MJ turns into scream and then out of nowhere “YOU NEVER BELIVED IN ME I CAN TAKE CARE OF MYSELF”

which yes the symbiotic uses your negative feelings bla blah blah

but the way they have a 2 second heart to heart afterwards and then move on like nothing happened is so silly man there was no reason for this conflict in the game