Dec 30, 2021
AvaCan’t wait till Backlava: Resurrections comes out
Need Backlava: Reflections miniseries first
Dec 30, 2021did dude leave u guys w/o a discord or anything else lol
- Dec 30, 2021·2 replies
HaroldsChickenSimulacra and Simulation delineates the sign-order into four stages:
The first stage is a faithful image/copy, where we believe, and it may even be correct, that a sign is a "reflection of a profound reality" (pg 6), this is a good appearance, in what Baudrillard called "the sacramental order".
The second stage is perversion of reality, this is where we come to believe the sign to be an unfaithful copy, which "masks and denatures" reality as an "evil appearance—it is of the order of maleficence". Here, signs and images do not faithfully reveal reality to us, but can hint at the existence of an obscure reality which the sign itself is incapable of encapsulating.
The third stage masks the absence of a profound reality, where the sign pretends to be a faithful copy, but it is a copy with no original. Signs and images claim to represent something real, but no representation is taking place and arbitrary images are merely suggested as things which they have no relationship to. Baudrillard calls this the "order of sorcery", a regime of semantic algebra where all human meaning is conjured artificially to appear as a reference to the (increasingly) hermetic truth.
The fourth stage is pure simulacrum, in which the simulacrum has no relationship to any reality whatsoever. Here, signs merely reflect other signs and any claim to reality on the part of images or signs is only of the order of other such claims. This is a regime of total equivalency, where cultural products need no longer even pretend to be real in a naïve sense, because the experiences of consumers' lives are so predominantly artificial that even claims to reality are expected to be phrased in artificial, "hyperreal" terms. Any naïve pretension to reality as such is perceived as bereft of critical self-awareness, and thus as oversentimental@AKFresh
So these are different stages of denying reality right
Dec 30, 2021·editedAKFreshJust thought it was because they were trying to hide Neo and Trinity
thats part of it, but the matrix is straight up about being trans. thats its core, so by showing those mirror scenes we're shown that the way they look, is not the way they feel on the inside. Its like that scene where trinity is telling the story about showing her husband a picture of "trinity" from the game and her getting so upset when he laughs at her. shes talking about the trans experience, wanting to be different and wanting to change into someone you feel like represents you, instead of this body prison youve been relegated to
- Dec 30, 2021Ava
Can’t wait till Backlava: Resurrections comes out
- Dec 30, 2021·1 replyAKFresh
So these are different stages of denying reality right
no its more about how symbols can be used as tools to deny reality
- Dec 30, 2021·1 replyMark Moschino
no its more about how symbols can be used as tools to deny reality
Yeah and the symbols deteriorate through the stages
- Dec 30, 2021·1 replyAKFresh
Yeah and the symbols deteriorate through the stages
exactly, the meaning is lost through its recreations
- Dec 30, 2021·1 replyMark Moschino
exactly, the meaning is lost through its recreations
Gotcha
- Dec 30, 2021·1 reply
damn wheres that dinosaurs to dinosaur chicken nugget meme when you need it
- HaroldsChicken 🇵🇸OPDec 30, 2021·1 replyAKFresh
So these are different stages of denying reality right
Yes it’s the book he has in movie 1
- HaroldsChicken 🇵🇸OPDec 30, 2021·1 replyAKFresh
Gotcha
Part 1 “ you put my cat in the game because you hate deja vu “ ends holding the cat
- Dec 30, 2021
At least they nodded to it in the first movie
- Dec 30, 2021
they redeemed themselves tho by having baudrillard consult on reloaded
- HaroldsChicken 🇵🇸OPDec 30, 2021·2 replies
Combined with allegory of the cave with the computer generated sunlight showing they are still on a cave but think they aren’t because they eat strawberries
- Dec 30, 2021·3 replies
Y’all are on a way nother woke level
- Dec 30, 2021·1 replyHaroldsChicken
Combined with allegory of the cave with the computer generated sunlight showing they are still on a cave but think they aren’t because they eat strawberries
i just notice niobe gives neo a strawberry the same way the oracle was giving neo candy in the trilogy, i'm so so curious as to what niobe's role is in all this because i just got the skeeviest vibes from i/o
Dec 30, 2021AKFreshY’all are on a way nother woke level
Legit when the three of them actually discuss the movie I be picking up s*** I missed before lol
- Dec 30, 2021AKFresh
Y’all are on a way nother woke level
haha i just had to read too many books in college
- Dec 30, 2021·2 repliesHaroldsChicken
Combined with allegory of the cave with the computer generated sunlight showing they are still on a cave but think they aren’t because they eat strawberries
tiny redpills but this time they're organic
- Dec 30, 2021Mark Moschino
tiny redpills but this time they're organic
wait f*** is that a comment on neoliberalism?????
- Dec 30, 2021·3 repliesMark Moschino
damn wheres that dinosaurs to dinosaur chicken nugget meme when you need it
- Dec 30, 2021·1 replyAva
you are a god
@AKFresh this is what simulacrae is about
- Dec 30, 2021Ava
