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    in process and in practice of non-attachment

    Remember that non attachment IS NOT INDIFFERENCE

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    Feelings come
    Feelings go
    Feelings come
    Feelings go
    Feelings come
    Feelings go

    praying for non attachment to seep into my core.

  • Jul 14, 2021
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    Worldpremiere_

    in process and in practice of non-attachment

    Remember that non attachment IS NOT INDIFFERENCE

    Do you have any recs that deal with this specifically?

    Walking this line has been one of my biggest struggles.

    Sometimes I still carry the idea of emotions being binary and I’m guilty of leaning hard into the “positive” which can be just as dangerous as leaning into the “negative” from my experience.

  • Jul 14, 2021
    Kub

    finding the present moment is pure bliss

  • Jul 14, 2021
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    drowner

    Do you have any recs that deal with this specifically?

    Walking this line has been one of my biggest struggles.

    Sometimes I still carry the idea of emotions being binary and I’m guilty of leaning hard into the “positive” which can be just as dangerous as leaning into the “negative” from my experience.

    this. a big thing holding me back from entering the realm of meditation again

  • Jul 14, 2021
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    this. a big thing holding me back from entering the realm of meditation again

    Did anything happen to make you stop? Or did the routine kinda just end.

    My best stretches ended because I got too comfortable and wrapped up in the increased positivity instead of the bigger picture.

    I think over the years I’ve had a lot of different motivations on why I wanted to walk this path and that made the whole practice unstable.

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    drowner

    Do you have any recs that deal with this specifically?

    Walking this line has been one of my biggest struggles.

    Sometimes I still carry the idea of emotions being binary and I’m guilty of leaning hard into the “positive” which can be just as dangerous as leaning into the “negative” from my experience.

    No clue. thats why im praying

    very hard to really embody non attachment instead of just intellectualizing it. Its not like you aint gonna feel attached, you just cease to feel attached to the attachment. easier said than done.

    Many zen practitioners say to keep your meditative practice as meditation intrinsically is a desire eradicator when practiced over time and taken very seriously

    im watching alot of talks about non attachment rn. Its like the crux of enlightenment and second to mindfulness as the main aim of buddhism, let alone zen.

    But im just trying to learn it for my own life and relationships. its the main thing that holds me back rn

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    Did anything happen to make you stop? Or did the routine kinda just end.

    My best stretches ended because I got too comfortable and wrapped up in the increased positivity instead of the bigger picture.

    I think over the years I’ve had a lot of different motivations on why I wanted to walk this path and that made the whole practice unstable.

    It hit me quite viscerally when I started a***yzing my mindfulness rituals as post-hoc for capitalist productivity. I think if we strive to be connected to nature or connected to an immaterial synergy it is very easy for said practices to go from mere respites of everyday life to measures of self-serving reinforcement.

    I get more fulfillment engaging in deeper critical inquiry about the self and the ways in which we all resort to our own means of self-reflection, or carving out a life for myself that is as altruistic and fortified in values that it can be.

    I wouldn't say any of those values differ from those that meditation may promote, but I do refrain from notions of being present or any pursuit of attaining truth via nature and our own self autonomy. it is nothing more than a physical skill for me now.

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    No clue. thats why im praying

    very hard to really embody non attachment instead of just intellectualizing it. Its not like you aint gonna feel attached, you just cease to feel attached to the attachment. easier said than done.

    Many zen practitioners say to keep your meditative practice as meditation intrinsically is a desire eradicator when practiced over time and taken very seriously

    im watching alot of talks about non attachment rn. Its like the crux of enlightenment and second to mindfulness as the main aim of buddhism, let alone zen.

    But im just trying to learn it for my own life and relationships. its the main thing that holds me back rn

    I feel you, thats the thing, these kinds of words are the hardest to put into action. or non action. They're definitely right, cause with my varying motivations, I can definitely feel where I'm missing some key lessons from this whole thing.

    I stuck to Thich Nhat Hanh and talks about suffering at first, but its probably time to branch out.

    What motivated you to go from the practice to studying buddhism fully? Your excitement itt is contagious as hell.

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    Feelings come
    Feelings go
    Feelings come
    Feelings go
    Feelings come
    Feelings go

    praying for non attachment to seep into my core.

    Dnt get attached to the desire for unattachment ;)

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    It hit me quite viscerally when I started a***yzing my mindfulness rituals as post-hoc for capitalist productivity. I think if we strive to be connected to nature or connected to an immaterial synergy it is very easy for said practices to go from mere respites of everyday life to measures of self-serving reinforcement.

    I get more fulfillment engaging in deeper critical inquiry about the self and the ways in which we all resort to our own means of self-reflection, or carving out a life for myself that is as altruistic and fortified in values that it can be.

    I wouldn't say any of those values differ from those that meditation may promote, but I do refrain from notions of being present or any pursuit of attaining truth via nature and our own self autonomy. it is nothing more than a physical skill for me now.

    Thats an interesting take. For a short time when I wasn't meditating, I felt a similar fulfillment in other ways of self reflection, but always ending up back right here.

    What made you start meditating?

    Also how do you feel about the idea of stillness? It's what I think of when topics of self autonomy and nature come up in these discussions, I feel like its all a way to get us to that point of that very critical inquiry you mentioned, the truth. Of course theres the literal stillness and its physical effects on the body, but isnt there a stillness even when you're at the peak of some relatively cataclysmic event in your life? That "this is really happening" feel. Something like the eye of the storm. I feel like whether we're searching for it, where we meet by chance through meditation, or it finds us, that stillness will come. With stillness comes awareness or vice versa, I think that self reflection is always right behind it.

  • Jul 15, 2021
    lnstinct

    Dnt get attached to the desire for unattachment ;)

    🙏🏾

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    drowner

    I feel you, thats the thing, these kinds of words are the hardest to put into action. or non action. They're definitely right, cause with my varying motivations, I can definitely feel where I'm missing some key lessons from this whole thing.

    I stuck to Thich Nhat Hanh and talks about suffering at first, but its probably time to branch out.

    What motivated you to go from the practice to studying buddhism fully? Your excitement itt is contagious as hell.

    Yea and like ppl said, its easy to get attached to the desire for non attachment as well. its best just to stay present. its all in the present. The lesson is that there is no lesson, but our youthful and thinking minds just go where they want lmfao. The key is simple acceptance of all things as they are imo. But again, easier said than done, esp for us youngins with a lack of real life experience.

    im going thru alot of emotional pain at the moment, but the practice helps put s*** into perspective. helping me realize that emotional pain is good. all experience is good and keeps us malleable and in flow with time. Its the attachment to what was or what could be that holds back, not the actual events that took place. so instead of running from whats hurting me, im going all in on it and getting played some more

    I feel like focusing on risk in our everyday life is a good way to really cultivate non attachment as ppl in our early 20s. Our meditative practice aids as a buffer and a perspective expander for real life s***.

    And nothing really motivated me tbh i just kinda fell into zen by practicing everyday and found myself reading up on zen. Zen buddhism is different from regular buddhism in alot of ways, so i cant really call myself a buddhist. Not even a zen buddhist lol. I just practice it

  • Jul 15, 2021
    Worldpremiere_

    Yea and like ppl said, its easy to get attached to the desire for non attachment as well. its best just to stay present. its all in the present. The lesson is that there is no lesson, but our youthful and thinking minds just go where they want lmfao. The key is simple acceptance of all things as they are imo. But again, easier said than done, esp for us youngins with a lack of real life experience.

    im going thru alot of emotional pain at the moment, but the practice helps put s*** into perspective. helping me realize that emotional pain is good. all experience is good and keeps us malleable and in flow with time. Its the attachment to what was or what could be that holds back, not the actual events that took place. so instead of running from whats hurting me, im going all in on it and getting played some more

    I feel like focusing on risk in our everyday life is a good way to really cultivate non attachment as ppl in our early 20s. Our meditative practice aids as a buffer and a perspective expander for real life s***.

    And nothing really motivated me tbh i just kinda fell into zen by practicing everyday and found myself reading up on zen. Zen buddhism is different from regular buddhism in alot of ways, so i cant really call myself a buddhist. Not even a zen buddhist lol. I just practice it

    Thanks for your input man. I never thought about risks and non attachment being related like that. Makes a ton of sense.

    I wish you well moving through that pain

  • Jul 15, 2021
    drowner

    Thats an interesting take. For a short time when I wasn't meditating, I felt a similar fulfillment in other ways of self reflection, but always ending up back right here.

    What made you start meditating?

    Also how do you feel about the idea of stillness? It's what I think of when topics of self autonomy and nature come up in these discussions, I feel like its all a way to get us to that point of that very critical inquiry you mentioned, the truth. Of course theres the literal stillness and its physical effects on the body, but isnt there a stillness even when you're at the peak of some relatively cataclysmic event in your life? That "this is really happening" feel. Something like the eye of the storm. I feel like whether we're searching for it, where we meet by chance through meditation, or it finds us, that stillness will come. With stillness comes awareness or vice versa, I think that self reflection is always right behind it.

    gunna respond to this tn btw

  • Jul 17, 2021

    Legendary talk

  • Jul 17, 2021

    Need to get back on this 🧘🏾‍♂️

  • Jul 17, 2021
    Jozen

    Managed to allot 10 minutes of time today

    my goal is to stick with this for at least a week and up the time from there

    5/5 🧘‍♂️

    I noticed my running is getting alot better, I’m able to focus more and be completely present

  • Jul 18, 2021
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    Just noticed that in these last few days my negative thinking patterns have slowed down considerably, am no longer constantly chasing thoughts that make me unreasonably angry or anxious. At least when I do, I can recognize it and simply let it go

    My focus is definitely sharper from these 2 or so weeks of daily meditation. What a relief fr, only getting started too

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    i needa start meditating

  • Jul 19, 2021
    Vance

    i needa start meditating

    Everybody does

  • Jul 21, 2021

    Straight from shibuya

    Off some zeennn

  • Jul 21, 2021
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    I absolutely love meditating and have been really getting on 2-3 times a day for 15-20 min each and its been great

    buut, I'm gonna start going to a therapist because there is some s*** I need to work out If I truly want to get past this layer of suffering.

    don't worry though, I'm def gonna stick with meditating for my whole life, Im trynna break out this cycle of rebirth and suffering man

  • Jul 21, 2021
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    I absolutely love meditating and have been really getting on 2-3 times a day for 15-20 min each and its been great

    buut, I'm gonna start going to a therapist because there is some s*** I need to work out If I truly want to get past this layer of suffering.

    don't worry though, I'm def gonna stick with meditating for my whole life, Im trynna break out this cycle of rebirth and suffering man

    This is key man. Alot of people think meditation is like a cure all for all problems. When in reality it simply unmasks the present moment. Whatever traumas and past hurt ppl carry gonna get exposed in a very surprising way when sitting ngl. Like rn going thru what im going thru, i feel it like 10x more as part of the waves of emotions that come and go during sitting.

    Im thinking of doing therapy as well. Do y feel like meditation guided u to seek therapy?

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