I’m all for the whole protecting black women movement but it’s lowkey slowly turning into a anti black men wave which can be destructive for the community
The whole “ niggas ain’t s*** “ been a meme for years but deadass it’s starting to turn into a serious movement in which in turn is spawning anti black men narratives/propaganda which makes y’all look bad or worse.... it may cause a massive irreparable rift between us all
Most black women in real life aren’t like that at all. I only see that s*** on Twitter. My sisters for example would never say some of the foul s*** I see on Twitter
I agree that’s my whole thing. This nigga TORY LANEZ ain’t s***. Men who abuse women ain’t s*** etc. I think the whole black men ain’t s*** rhetoric is more harmful than good at opening a discussion
That's something I agree with you with. Like I totally understand the discussion, but don't start this up over f***in Tory Lanez 5'3 ass
Black men don't even have the means to oppress white women in any significant way
Much of white feminism has even been a direct backlash against black people (specifically black men) gaining more rights
so if a black man were to underpay a white woman would that not be a form of oppression?
how does that exclude sexism then?
Let me ask u this
I'm a black men, dark skin, muslim, son of immigrants, came from a poor family
Am I an oppressor of a white woman, rich, american citizen ?
Most black women in real life aren’t like that at all. I only see that s*** on Twitter. My sisters for example would never say some of the foul s*** I see on Twitter
Yeah but it’s still a harmful narrative, many black women may not believe it but what about those who are just outsiders unaware of the struggle in the communities?
What’s stop non blacks from believing this potential anti black men agenda if it becomes a serious threat ?
Let me ask u this
I'm a black men, dark skin, muslim, son of immigrants, came from a poor family
Am I an oppressor of a white woman, rich, american citizen ?
yes, not in regard to your race, skin color, religion, immigration history, or class
but because you, as a cis-man, benefit from sexism
she oppresses you in regard to all those other social groups
so if a black man were to underpay a white woman would that not be a form of oppression?
No. White women have more privilege than white men
Let me ask u this
I'm a black men, dark skin, muslim, son of immigrants, came from a poor family
Am I an oppressor of a white woman, rich, american citizen ?
White women cannot be oppressed
yes, not in regard to your race, skin color, religion, immigration history, or class
but because you, as a cis-man, benefit from sexism
she oppresses you in regard to all those other social groups
Lmao "you as a cis-man" nigga foh
yes, not in regard to your race, skin color, religion, immigration history, or class
but because you, as a cis-man, benefit from sexism
she oppresses you in regard to all those other social groups
You dont see the problem with this logic tho. With this line of thinking, everyone is an oppressor
No. White women have more privilege than white men
is oppression an all or nothing phenomena then?
can a queer, trans-woman not be oppressed if she's white?
I’m all for the whole protecting black women movement but it’s lowkey slowly turning into a anti black men wave which can be destructive for the community
The whole “ niggas ain’t s*** “ been a meme for years but deadass it’s starting to turn into a serious movement in which in turn is spawning anti black men narratives/propaganda which makes y’all look bad or worse.... it may cause a massive irreparable rift between us all
I’m sayin exactly this but everytime I bring it up Im a coon who dont wanna listen to black women for some reason
Like a lot of this movement against black men is justified to some extent since women do suffer but you can’t also ignore the fact that there’s a rising movement of self hate in black women that has taken this struggle as a gateway towards mainstream acceptance
yes, not in regard to your race, skin color, religion, immigration history, or class
but because you, as a cis-man, benefit from sexism
she oppresses you in regard to all those other social groups
You’re still going on about this ? Black men don’t benefit from patriarchy as much as white men
Black men can be sexist to white women all they want but they don’t have the resources or power to oppress white women
White women can literally weaponize their privilege and get black men locked up
so if a black man were to underpay a white woman would that not be a form of oppression?
Bro white women have a large pay gap advantage over black men and black men are the least likely of any male group outside of Indgenious men to be in high level positions at any corporation. This is a ridiculous hypothetical question.
White women cannot be oppressed
I dont why it's so hard to see. Especially with the whole karen thing going on lol
Yeah but it’s still a harmful narrative, many black women may not believe it but what about those who are just outsiders unaware of the struggle in the communities?
What’s stop non blacks from believing this potential anti black men agenda if it becomes a serious threat ?
Bingo!
we have to be conscious of the other communities who have shown the ability to infiltrate these discussions and further the divide
it's nothing for a million russian bots to jump on twitter and start pushing this propaganda
this is still a relatively new phenomenon so we aren't thinking about the long term effects
Bro white women have a large pay gap advantage over black men and black men are the least likely of any male group outside of Indgenious men to be in high level positions at any corporation. This is a ridiculous hypothetical question.
You dont see the problem with this logic tho. With this line of thinking, everyone is an oppressor
we all benefit from some type of privilege, yes. some more than others
it's important that we acknowledge the ways we benefit from the evils of society in order to gain justice for all
Let me ask u this
I'm a black men, dark skin, muslim, son of immigrants, came from a poor family
Am I an oppressor of a white woman, rich, american citizen ?
I’m a darkskin Muslim son of immigrants too lol. I was more privileged when it comes to income tho. We damn near the same person
This patriarchal society benefits white women before it even does black men though
Fam I'm on your side with this lol when it comes to black men and white women, much of that patriarchal society s*** goes out the window because racial dynamics between white people and black people supersedes the gender dynamics.
I’m sayin exactly this but everytime I bring it up Im a coon who dont wanna listen to black women for some reason
Like a lot of this movement against black men is justified to some extent since women do suffer but you can’t also ignore the fact that there’s a rising movement of self hate in black women that has taken this struggle as a gateway towards mainstream acceptance
I agree I use to be full of the same hatred & even went through some self hatred as well
I think it’s the subconscious notion that many women believe all men are the center of their problems, I’ve seen this a lot in feminist rallies too
Yes men have a history oppressing, killing, raping & abusing women but it’s dangerous to paint all men as such