Regardless of where you stand about MJ, at the very least you have to admit the sleepovers with kids in his bed was weirdo s***.
This never happened
yea
i think by today's standards it's all gonna look weird regardless. but also between the 80s/90s and now parents be overboard with the helicoptering
these kids aint outside at all they on Roblox For iPad and bein envious of the 1-2 friends they got who can have sleepovers whose parents are considered the scum of the earth by all the other parents
dis is smthn i think is just gonna get more indecipherable with time sadly. ykno the ppl got their reasons n i think their worries make sense, i just don't think mj was ever doin any of the s*** that ppl worried bout
most of the talk is just "well, that's weird
isn't it obvious??" but that's just the sheltering talking. ppl got it in their mind that modern-day-red-flag = bad stuff is 100% guaranteed to be happening. but ppl makin their red flags so broad yet strict nowadays that they can't even understand why a sleepover Might Not lead to their child being abused. there's no other possibilities. we're talkin bout kids, so i can understand the protectiveness. but i also think it just makes these convos hard bc u can't even state a situation w/o the response just being "this situation = this result. always."
This s*** was not normal in the 80s and 90s wtf are you talking about & why do you think people had an issue with it back then lmao. A lot of child laws were started IN THE 80s because of all the wild s*** in the 50s to then happening & parents not having any way to keep their children watched or cared for due to limited technology & the work they had to always do.
Also the 80s n 70s had way higher cases of cults, church & boarding school abuse so if you think thats the golden era for children even tho people say different & the reports, then ok 💀💀
Michael Jackson wasn’t a pedophile those ppl extorted him and the media took advantage of the situation. He was bigger than the beatles and owned their catalog among other white artists got with Elvis daughter and has the highest selling album above white artists so he ruffled some white feathers.
It also sets a terrible example for the kid going forward thinking its ok with "anyone" & makes them open to more possibilities.
Part of the reason why you stop breast feeding at a certain age with a child or them being in your bed. Boundaries, maturity & independence.
Regardless of MJ not touching them, it is weird. And kids literally dont know better. They are not adults (literally their brain isnt even 3 quarters developed yet lol nevermind everything else) & pretending they are opens up so many dangerous situations.
Yeah he probably didnt touch them, yeah other adults probably were trying to extort him after the first initial cases/controversy.
But its still weird, and definitely shouldnt be normalized.
The first accusation is documented extortion from the outset. The following accusations all use that and Victor Gutierrez bullshit reporting as a blueprint
MJ was wise enough in 03 to not share a bed with the Arvizo’s but Janet was a historic grifter who grifted JC Penney and tried to get many celebs including Jay Leno and Chris Tucker. MJ was an easy target & played into their hands with his naivety and kindness
Regardless of where you stand about MJ, at the very least you have to admit the sleepovers with kids in his bed was weirdo s***.
His bedroom was very big and he slept somewhere else while the kids were alone in bed always.
The first accusation is documented extortion from the outset. The following accusations all use that and Victor Gutierrez bullshit reporting as a blueprint
MJ was wise enough in 03 to not share a bed with the Arvizo’s but Janet was a historic grifter who grifted JC Penney and tried to get many celebs including Jay Leno and Chris Tucker. MJ was an easy target & played into their hands with his naivety and kindness
Martin Bashir is such a slimeball too
Would you let MJ babysit your kid?
Would you let anyone but your parents babysit your kid?
They had that man on fed surveillance for like 10 years and didn't find nothing
Only that should tell you
Ppl always bring this up disingenuously, and make it sound like he was being surveillanced for 10 years consecutively.
MJ only got surveillanced 2 or 3 separate times; and those 2-3 times happened in the span of 10 years.
I'm not necessarily arguing he did or didn't do it. But someone with as much money as MJ could easier cover up whatever he needed to hide before hand
Ppl always bring this up disingenuously, and make it sound like he was being surveillanced for 10 years consecutively.
MJ only got surveillanced 2 or 3 separate times; and those 2-3 times happened in the span of 10 years.
I'm not necessarily arguing he did or didn't do it. But someone with as much money as MJ could easier cover up whatever he needed to hide before hand
There were multiple claims made that were physically impossible to have covered up.
It’s true, it wasn’t a consistent 10 year surveillance but there were over 60 organisations and multiple jurisdictions broken in order to snag evidence.. and none of it existed
MJ was shooting a video while given the news NL was raided in 03. He had no idea it was happening - which is the whole point of a raid anyway
Martin Bashir is such a slimeball too
Brave enough to lie to Jackson’s face and make documentaries (2 total I believe) yet when he was put on the stand and couldn’t lie hid behind the shield law and refused to answer anything. Coward.
The karma train got his ass in the end
This s*** was not normal in the 80s and 90s wtf are you talking about & why do you think people had an issue with it back then lmao. A lot of child laws were started IN THE 80s because of all the wild s*** in the 50s to then happening & parents not having any way to keep their children watched or cared for due to limited technology & the work they had to always do.
Also the 80s n 70s had way higher cases of cults, church & boarding school abuse so if you think thats the golden era for children even tho people say different & the reports, then ok 💀💀
did i ever say it was normal :) no, shut ur b**** ass can’t read ass up. i’m talking about how sensibilities being wildly different from then and now contribute to how difficult this topic is to discuss. if u don’t get it idc cus u already shown u ass.
Made phenomenal music and was an incredible businessman
but he still gave his accusers $20M
Now lets say a woman accused Kanye of rape and he went on to give her $20M how would we paint him guilty or not? Who does that? Give somebody set out to destroy you with lies $20,000,000?
Made phenomenal music and was an incredible businessman
but he still gave his accusers $20M
Now lets say a woman accused Kanye of rape and he went on to give her $20M how would we paint him guilty or not? Who does that? Give somebody set out to destroy you with lies $20,000,000?
how would we paint sm1 who believes the world's biggest popstar is out there raping children, including their own, but can look past it for a cool 20 mil 😎
Only a guilty person giving somebody accusing them of that $20M
I said it idgaf how ya feel anymore
it's the same question you're trying to raise about michael, just from the accuser's pov. it's actually the easiest thing to understand cus you wrote the prompt for it, but thas ok