Brother that's literally the same video that I linked. Are you goin to say they edited it to look like the kid is cuddled up on Michael's shoulder now? Or they edited him justifying sharing a bed with a child that isn't his own? I think I'm done with this conversation. You're a good example of why celebrity worship is a disease. If you can't see what's weird about this video then that's that...

You've done no research on the 2005 trial, you've done no research into that clip, in fact you've done no research on any of it, and I'm the idiot?

Do some research. That's that.

I'm commenting on the creepy nature of that specific unedited video. There is no context that will change that. I'm not sure why you keep trying to defend this with "Do some research". Nigga research into what? We seeing the same video brother and that s*** is weird. Sorry I'm a normal human being with eyes and ears

Personal opinion is not to be mixed with fact (I don’t care what you take away from a 20+ year old edited to hell and back documentary) I’m telling you to look into the facts of the case surrounding that very video.

As the link I posted tells you, MJ slept on the floor & as told in court that’s what happened in the Arvizo case. Aphrodite Jones tells you how this scene was staged and manipulated. All things you’d know if you had done the research like I said.

MJ should’ve been less naive. I don’t argue that.

Celebrity worship is bad but so is being a tabloid ovine and trying to take a high ground because of it.

So now you're saying that Michael got a script from the director and was told how to move. Thanks. Totally logical position here

No, MJs opinion on bed sharing while innocent he should’ve been less naive. But he was very stubborn.

Please continue to falsely summarise what I say with no wider understanding of what actually happened, it’s great.

When history is written as it should be, being involved in the production of a Hollywood musician biopic in any capacity will be a grounds for incarceration.

This made me go back and check the transcripts.

Gavin testified in March 2005 he didn’t like the director because of what he said about Michael and the manipulation.

This is while he is on the stand pretending he was abused. It’s not just MJ who felt set up.

If this was like the first situation of it's kind then sure, I could given him the benefit of the doubt. But keep in mind that this was already after a lawsuit where he had to pay a hefty 25 million dollar settlement to 5 different accusers. Yet he still goes on to hang around children which are not his own in these inappropriate ways. He shouldn't even be hanging around children anymore, he's very aware of how it looks. His fascination in children goes past naivety at this point, it puts his mental health and this behavior in question. That is why this video is creepy because he thinks this is still appropriate regardless of everything he went through

25 million to 5? That never happened for starters.. if you mean the 94 settlement it’s already in this thread why that had to happen

He thinks it’s still appropriate because he did nothing wrong. I don’t agree but it’s not hard to understand.

Regardless if you believe that he's innocent or gulity this is a very interesting and informative video imo.

@KingOfPop @Guapo_

Y'all going in circles with this argument, it's clear neither side is convincing the other and both y'all have drawn a line in the sand lol.

That's why I stopped responding lol

Yeah no point replying to lies at this point, especially when it detracts from the film discussion

On topic - there's a video of Jafaar rehearsing Man in the Mirror synced with a Dangerous Tour performance and its really good. I'll have to find it

Yeah, check this out:

S*** is still weird whether nothing happened or not lol

Not sure how I feel about this and Jafaar together. Neither are renowned actors.

This movie is either going to be mediocre, really bad, or just plain bad

This s*** needs to be more like Blonde not Bohemian Rhapsody

That production still looks striking. I really hate how Antoine’s recent movies look & how recent biopics look in general. The Whitney one, Rocketman, the upcoming Marley or Winehouse ones. All look like straight to streaming work place sitcoms. They need to shoot this on film or give it the cinematic look of an old spielberg. Or even michael’s own old music videos

makes me wonder if all these recent musician bios are being produced by the same people. They all have that Cheap digital look. I hate it

It’s got a bigger budget than all of them. Im hopeful they’re doing this right

Who is the dp on this?