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5y

Probably because he genuinely likes them

I doubt Kanye cares about numbers like that but maybe I’m wrong

Niggamortis

5y

Damn that's harsh.

Producers/engineers are already stressed out on the job as is, so hearing negativity like that more than once can definitely strain the working process and create a split.

At least it wasn't on some Atlanta s***.

insertcoolnamehere

5y

crazy all these tweaks and high celebrity features and this is still the best version

ThisAuburnNigga

5y

I think he thought he could still make a MBDTF quality project. And I know some of the properties of this rollout stem from other avenues than MBDTF, but I think he tried to channel a lot of that roll out here.

I believe somewhere in the crafting of the project, he just realized that he himself doesn’t have that same music ability. Maybe the Rubins and the Deans were a big part of it, but I always thought the biggest thing Kanye stood out in, is that he could craft a project better than anyone. Transitions, momentum, track lists. Post Yeezus, I think he just lost it (or he stopped listening to the people who helped him Idk)

fashion killa

5y

most definitely.

mbdtf was a beautiful merging of powerful features.

donda is just a bizarre mix of random rappers that someone probably played kanye or he heard about on twitter. I think a lot of it just has to do w him getting old. Kanye has said on record that he doesn't keep up with rap. he doesn't listen to modern hip hop. and that's fine, because he's never really tried to make modern rap, he always just does what he likes. for a long time, whatever he did became modern rap. When he put together the feature list on mbdtf it was a bunch of artist who came up with or around him, and people who's music he was genuinely a big fan of.

the sense i get w donda is that kanye said "i'm gonna make christian music cool. I'm gonna put christianity into cool rap songs" and then realized he doesn't know what "cool rap songs" even means. It seems like he grabbed a bunch of guys who he heard were popular with the kids and threw them on whatever tracks he felt like. This time around it really doesn't seem like there's a deep connection with most of the features at all. I really doubt Kanye and Lil Durk are close outside of the recording studio.

Honestly this keeps going with the beats. I think Kanye has picked up that short zaytoven style 808s are popular now, but hasn't realized how important drumkits are in this digital age. You need the right hats claps snares etc to make a good beat. when it's homebrewed stuff it has to be either really well done or really unique, otherwise it just sounds cheap and off brand. and that's exactly what's happened with so many of these beats, the 808s especially. For all my producer people out there, I think most of the donda beats sound like attempts at modern instrumentals made with only stock sounds. It doesn't sound like one (or even a few) producers coherent vision, it sounds like a product of session musicians and a bunch of inexperienced producers. while im at it, this is exactly why I hate take a daytrip's production, it just sounds like a lab made imitation of what real production is.

LOUD

5y

Yo is Mike Dean white?

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5y

He’s pissed right now

Niggamortis

5y

Not even sure what the point of these album streams followed by radio silence is all about, and those engineers probably don't even have an ETA either.

Is he waiting on feedback and then changing things, or are we just invited to witness raw musical creation and the process of how tracks come together piece by piece?

If it's the former then I'd rather it release organically without opinions influencing the art.

Keekaroo Jackass

5y

F*** Mike Dean

Joe Jigga Biden

5y

Gotta feel for Mike here.

Kanye gives him vocals recorded out of moving cars from iPhone mics and then screams at Mike for the mixing lmao

NBA GameBoy

5y

A worker breaking free from his chains

Oblivion X

5y

Bugging

Oblivion X

5y

How would anyone know what he said during that part of the show tho

fashion killa

5y

agreed

the people's opinion tends to be really stupid.

great example of this is the dichotomy of uzi and carti

uzi let the fans dictate EA, even had them choose the cover art and which songs were on the deluxe. He let tyler's opinion DRAMATICALLY affect the album even though tyler has no business in uzi's lane. and he dropped a wholly mid-tier album (and this is coming from someone who believes uzi never released a sub-par project before then)

Carti didnt give a s*** what his fans said and only put two of the many leaks fans wanted on his album. And while that received plenty of initial backlash, it's become a massive critical success since and is widely regarded as an overall great album.

fashion killa

5y

most definitely.

mbdtf was a beautiful merging of powerful features.

donda is just a bizarre mix of random rappers that someone probably played kanye or he heard about on twitter. I think a lot of it just has to do w him getting old. Kanye has said on record that he doesn't keep up with rap. he doesn't listen to modern hip hop. and that's fine, because he's never really tried to make modern rap, he always just does what he likes. for a long time, whatever he did became modern rap. When he put together the feature list on mbdtf it was a bunch of artist who came up with or around him, and people who's music he was genuinely a big fan of.

the sense i get w donda is that kanye said "i'm gonna make christian music cool. I'm gonna put christianity into cool rap songs" and then realized he doesn't know what "cool rap songs" even means. It seems like he grabbed a bunch of guys who he heard were popular with the kids and threw them on whatever tracks he felt like. This time around it really doesn't seem like there's a deep connection with most of the features at all. I really doubt Kanye and Lil Durk are close outside of the recording studio.

Honestly this keeps going with the beats. I think Kanye has picked up that short zaytoven style 808s are popular now, but hasn't realized how important drumkits are in this digital age. You need the right hats claps snares etc to make a good beat. when it's homebrewed stuff it has to be either really well done or really unique, otherwise it just sounds cheap and off brand. and that's exactly what's happened with so many of these beats, the 808s especially. For all my producer people out there, I think most of the donda beats sound like attempts at modern instrumentals made with only stock sounds. It doesn't sound like one (or even a few) producers coherent vision, it sounds like a product of session musicians and a bunch of inexperienced producers. while im at it, this is exactly why I hate take a daytrip's production, it just sounds like a lab made imitation of what real production is.