Because you have done this thread a million times before trying to validate the artists you listen to, when you can just listen to said artists melz.

The fact you have to constantly highlight "oh see they really are deep rappers guys" nitpicking lyrics, means they might not really be that deep melz.

you sidestepping yeat is why opinions like yours aren't taken seriously melz.

There u go.

Oh and one more thing

$ilkmoney is 29 years old and has more alliance with the Quelle Chrises (40) and fly anakins (30) than the teeny boppers you love so much Melz.

Once again, non-black hip hop fans just yapping.

something Melz would definitely say just like that lol

the artists you’re naming aren’t heron addicted white kids playing on computer keyboards with random sounds until they sound passable enough, no respectfully lmfao

Lol dawg you think anyone that likes new music is melz? Did he even make threads like this all I remember was him glazing nettspend and ug artists when I was lurking, nett isn’t even close to the best of his class wasn’t melz black too why would I not claim that on a hip hop board if I was wouldn’t that be incredibly advantageous? I’ve talked in depth about being a Palestinian gay man living in the Middle East for the past year and my boyfriend and s*** dawg what a weird accusation. Gang, are you just baffled a younger person could be on this board like I don’t get it. I talk about what’s passionate to me and makes sense to talk about considering the audience and sentiment here, since my perspective is different.

I have made one other thread about an artist I like saying how much his work means to me and where I want his substance, writing , and skill should be recognized. Closest thing to this. And how I don’t like the critic framework of good music becuase of what it’s rooted in, nor do I like approaching music for lyrical substance to determine quality.

This is moreso a novel topic about substance in the modern day where it’s often dismissed due to presentation. Substance and vulnerability where it’s not expected or recognized. I don’t see how making threads that are positive about things you like are bad would you prefer I spend all my time here b****ing and refusing to engage in the substance of what I see? Or how about another Kendrick drake thread? Or one about how everything sucks now? I’d rather talk about what love, correct misconceptions, and give people new things and perspectives to enjoy. Or to discuss it.

And to my point the fact your dismissing yeat off his name and not off the entire album I referenced proves the necessity of me pointing this out, because I’m not cherry picking I’m giving nearly 20 artists and examples of their most effective moments to me that come to mind. Listed entire waves and other rappers too other than what’s embedded mind you.

This thread keep taking wild turns

Mmm neither were the other 15 people I focused on. Using a child’s d*** addiction to dismiss his pain is weird once again, but as I said it’s just a random side example that’s sad and vulnerable on a meta level. DMX was addicted to crack and ODB was addicted to cocaine and opioids, much more examples that exist. It’s just clearly bad faith and I don’t know why. We can dismiss nettspend if you’d like wouldn’t take away from my point much. I don’t claim him to be a good writer nor aware of what I’m talking about

Veeze is also like 30 but he’s a new generation artist, so what? 50 cent wasn’t a new artist in 03 either right he was a veteran.

Listening to his music you could tell bro has a heart of gold deep down

Didn’t read, I don’t care about Nettspend or a white kids “struggles”

go get therapy. you literally started life ahead LOL

Bet guess Eminem, Aesop rock, el P, never made interesting music and had 0 struggles
Guess everyone else here is white too

don’t worry G I know reading isn’t ur strong suit nor is media literacy

I have never felt emotions for white pain or a***yzed it

I’m a black man in USA…lol

glad to know you tapped in with the whites tho!

Cool he’s the only white artist I mentioned and it was as a side comment, so (forgot if yeat is also white or if he’s Mexican)

If a white rapper existing in an era means everything else is all bullshit guess hip hop been ass since the beastie boys

I don’t associate hiphop with white people

Salute

nice, there’s a whole OP post of over a dozen other artists you may talk about as you please! Bigots are allowed here if they wanna be good faith!

calling a black man a bigot IN HIPHOP for not receiving white pain is HILARIOUS

take your charmin ultra soft ass on somewhere bruh. double entendre, hope you catch it lmfao

It’s ok if that pushes your buttons my point stands that there’s over a dozen others you can talk about if that bothers you so much, don’t worry I can hold ur hand thru this.

And what that last part mean is this supposed to be homophobic

it doesn’t push my buttons

you just sound dumb as f*** calling a black man LIVING/GROWING UP IN USA a bigot for not receiving white pain lmfaoooo have a blessed day bruh

Just because you can have some type of vulnerable lyrics don't mean you're a good rapper.

And majority of these rappers (outside of Doechii at least, potentially) just don't have lyrical depth.

I can walk ur hand thru this babes, u can talk about the other dozen artists here if you like ok? They aren’t white! And I don’t appreciate what seems like homophobic comments wishing me STDs and talking about my ass over a music discussion. Very weird!

I would agree with the first part, my claim isn’t that they are skilled rappers really, part of the point is that they aren’t perceived as traditionally skilled rappers. And I’d say a good amount of newer artists including most in the OP show explicit vulnerability and talk about real s*** in their lives, not just some vague type of vulnerability.

He’s so good, he really spit his soul out dawg like he really got it

Stop calling grown men babes and chill with the condescending tone, it’s giving elitist. you clearly didn’t catch I was calling you white so check your hiphop white pain and this s***ty substance thread at the door

salute lmao

By that point 50 cent was already known in the industry and had been rapping since ‘98-99 including a well known diss song against every artist in the industry.

Once again, stop while you behind lil nigga.