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  • Apr 12, 2025
    Andre Jaquet

    AI tools for beatMAKING, are amazing
    AI voice filters sound like s*** and r bad for art
    AI visual art is bad for art and soulless
    AI generated lyrics r ass and bad for art
    AI for deepfakes is cool
    AI as a TOOL is completely fine, replacing creativity and the human expression with AI is the issue

  • Apr 12, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    yes i read the same article as you i linked it earlier
    again, that is fine. that is not what people refer to when we talk about the harms of ai
    using ai to create more effective deepfakes in motion for a music video =/= using AI for voice filters, using AI to generate entire pieces of art, using it to create new artists, using it ot create governemnt legislation
    theres also AI tools for finding samples and for automating processes in beat making people dont s*** on that obviously. artificial intelligence models have existed before in many dif ways

    Is that not op point tho ? That not all use cases of a.i are harmful. He cited heart pt 5 video as a good use of a.i and he's not wrong for calling it a.i, because the method they used in that vid is literally generative a.i

  • 666 💢
    Apr 12, 2025

    "you cried when you saw nipsey" no i didnt

  • Apr 12, 2025
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    Water Giver

    Is this even AI

    no, it's applied machine learning

  • Apr 12, 2025
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    Oblivion X

    Is that not op point tho ? That not all use cases of a.i are harmful. He cited heart pt 5 video as a good use of a.i and he's not wrong for calling it a.i, because the method they used in that vid is literally generative a.i

    again
    when most people refer to ai being harmful
    they arent referring to things humans cant do, like generative ai/applied machine learning for deepfakes. at this point the AI people have an issue with was in its primitive stages
    they r referring to it replacing the creative work of humans. which not only is always ass but also lazy and hurts art

  • 18th April 2012 was a time

  • Apr 12, 2025

    30 years earlier...

  • Apr 12, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    again
    when most people refer to ai being harmful
    they arent referring to things humans cant do, like generative ai/applied machine learning for deepfakes. at this point the AI people have an issue with was in its primitive stages
    they r referring to it replacing the creative work of humans. which not only is always ass but also lazy and hurts art

    Let me ask you, how do think a video like Heart Part 5 would of been done without using A.I ?

  • Apr 12, 2025
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    Oblivion X

    Let me ask you, how do think a video like Heart Part 5 would of been done without using A.I ?

    painstaking editing or do an animation instead.

  • Apr 12, 2025
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    nocomment

    painstaking editing or do an animation instead.

    Yep or cgi modeling. The use of a.i cut that out of the process, the same ethical concerns about a.i is still present with the Heart pt 5 vid @Andre_Mackonen

  • Apr 12, 2025
    Oblivion X

    Yep or cgi modeling. The use of a.i cut that out of the process, the same ethical concerns about a.i is still present with the Heart pt 5 vid @Andre_Mackonen

    No, it’s streamlining a process that is often considered painstaking for a better result. That’s not the same as replacing artists. You’re losing jobs there, not artists. Deepfakes aren’t made to be an expression of an artist’s creativity. The deepfake is being used as a tool in the music video that was designed by humans for an individual human’s artistic vision for a song the human created.

  • Apr 12, 2025
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    nocomment

    no, it's applied machine learning

    meaningless distinctions. could also just say applied statistics.

  • Apr 12, 2025
    Water Giver

    Wasn't this before that?

    This video creation is 2021/2022

    A bit too early before the AI wave and general industry push

    Nvidia started investing into AI majorly in 2023 iirc

    And AI was still very infant in 2021/2022 that had a very tough time with photos let alone video even at a major level which was still really "indie", and right before chatgpt invites and the image generator, if I'm not mistaken

    nah GANs for deep fakes were already popular back then, AI not THAT new. most of the effective image based applications besides text to image already existed

  • Apr 12, 2025

    Only dorks that are stuck in CS hate on AI

    Ain’t that serious

  • Apr 12, 2025

    This was made manually rather than generated through AI though

    We gonna start calling 2pac Hologram aswell ? Lol

  • Apr 12, 2025
    pedigree spirit

    meaningless distinctions. could also just say applied statistics.

    intelligence is unimportant

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    This argument type disingen gen frfr

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    heart pt v isnt good as a song or mv

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    Apr 12, 2025
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    insertcoolnamehere

    but yall know that's not what niggas is referring to.

    And initially @op people did have an issue with the Nipsey thing until word got out Lauren and his friends/family okay'd the whole thing. So even with this it's walking a fine line.

    that’s exactly what people are talking about when they talk about AI music nowadays, especially about Carti & Kanye

    they have someone else record songs for them & use AI to deepfake it so it sounds like their own voices

  • Apr 12, 2025
    insertcoolnamehere

    This argument type disingen gen frfr

    If you disagree with my stance on AI, you SUCK and you need to GET with the times, bro!!!

    -op

  • Apr 12, 2025

    anyway, OP, your tone sucks, AI can be used as a tool creatively if it’s just that and not replacing the entire artistic vision. though, I’d prefer people to not use it

    your comparison to new instruments (??) is disingenuous and not comparable, one is made solely with humans while AI is generated. not to mention it’s f***ing stupid, instruments have been a thing for millennia

  • Apr 12, 2025
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    v12

    heart pt v isnt good as a song or mv

    Ok

  • Apr 12, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    yes i read the same article as you i linked it earlier
    again, that is fine. that is not what people refer to when we talk about the harms of ai
    using ai to create more effective deepfakes in motion for a music video =/= using AI for voice filters, using AI to generate entire pieces of art, using it to create new artists, using it ot create governemnt legislation
    theres also AI tools for finding samples and for automating processes in beat making people dont s*** on that obviously. artificial intelligence models have existed before in many dif ways

    using ai to create more effective deepfakes in motion for a music video

    using AI to generate entire pieces of art

    splitting hairs here

  • Apr 12, 2025
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    deepfaking someone’s face is ok but not their voice?

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