you want me to lie and act like i know what dude is even referring to?
idk what the ANC is nor do i know how it relates to mandela
But you continue to try to make points and arguments about it, it's not reflecting very well upon yourself, or your argument, you're making your stance and yourself look bad, which clearly you're either oblivious to, or you don't care.
I'd say the best solution is to not post until you read up more about it cause it's a bad look
right now there's people that need help so we can either continue 2 become educated on what's going on and be able to spread awareness and have legitimate discussions about it, or we can bicker on KTT2 and do a bunch of name-calling and hate and block each other.
I know which one sounds better to me,
but it's easier to say "Fuck you" a bunch of times right?
U ever wonder if there's something more than just doing that?
lmao no you just literally said a whole bunch of nothing
f***ing idiot using the same exact logic used to convice americans that invading iraq and afghanastan was a good thing
“people over there oppress others from freedom” so CONVENIENTLY leaving out how these people who commit oppression are an overwhelming minority of the population. your nation’s extremists aren’t your nation.
but i guess that doesn’t apply to white jews now does it?
Wow, what a stupid sophist. You’re literally comparing two totally different situations in a poor attempt to flip the narrative.
Israelis are profiting off that oppression, it doesn’t matter if they’re actively pursuing it or not: they are oppressors.
just feels like it's all competing propaganda. one article will say everything is Hamas' fault and that they're child-killing terrorists. another will say the same thing about Israel. now maybe that's laziness on my part, but both narratives are coming from pretty reputable sources, especially the narrative that it's all Hamas' fault. it's not a situation where it's just fringe people on one side and then reputable sources on the other, although "reputable" sources NYT, WaPo, etc.) have been wrong about s*** before and often
idk man its not really propaganda on both sides when there’s such a massive power imbalance
like i said i urge you doing research on the actual development of israel as a country. there’s letters from the founders of israel that explicitly detail their intent.
david gen gurion’s letter to his known should be accessible and is an interesting read if you want to hear about what zionism is about from one of its founding fathers
But you continue to try to make points and arguments about it, it's not reflecting very well upon yourself, or your argument, you're making your stance and yourself look bad, which clearly you're either oblivious to, or you don't care.
I'd say the best solution is to not post until you read up more about it cause it's a bad look
im not talking about nelson mandela
ive not brought him up in any new statement only those responding to HFM
i havent claimed to know anything about him and him continuing to press me about him just so i can say “yes the guy who ended apartheid is a terrorist” is pretty demonstrable of the entire point im trying to make
im not going to sit here for one second and say that those rockets headed towards the neighborhoods of innocent people are justified in any way shape or form
nor would i say anything different when it comes to the IDF’s inexcusable perpetuation of Palestinian displacement and murder (aka genocide)
it just seems to me that literally nobody gives a f*** about the former and when you keep screaming “destroy the iron dome” (or defund it however you wanna say it, its the exact same implication regardless) in combination with “hamas isnt anything compared to the IDF” it REALLY sounds to me like people would LIKE for hamas to be comparable to the IDF
Wow, what a stupid sophist. You’re literally comparing two totally different situations in a poor attempt to flip the narrative.
Israelis are profiting off that oppression, it doesn’t matter if they’re actively pursuing it or not: they are oppressors.
please keep generalizing all israelis just like rightwing idiots generalize all palestinians
so much virtue
all i learned today is that HFM is down kill civilians if deemed politically necessary
how has the cia not reached out with a position yet
Seeing niggas try to “both sides” an argument when one side is literally getting a bunch of US aid to bomb the s*** out of the other side is pretty wild lol
please keep generalizing all israelis just like rightwing idiots generalize all palestinians
so much virtue
How is that a generalisation?
All he is saying is that oppressors profit from the oppressed?
That is fairly uncontroversial
I’m not sure why I’m bothering to engage though, as your response will be a cliche ‘fuck you virtue signaller!!!’
please keep generalizing all israelis just like rightwing idiots generalize all palestinians
so much virtue
It’s not about virtue, idiot, it’s about logic: if you’re an Israeli, you’re profiting off the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Most of them don’t do anything about it so it’s only right to generalize. Palestinians who support Hamas are right: it’s the only army who’s willing to resist and defend them.
How is that a generalisation?
All he is saying is that oppressors profit from the oppressed?
That is fairly uncontroversial
I’m not sure why I’m bothering to engage though, as your response will be a cliche ‘fuck you virtue signaller!!!’
“israelis are oppresors” is no different than “palestinians are terrorists”
It’s not about virtue, idiot, it’s about logic: if you’re an Israeli, you’re profiting off the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Most of them don’t do anything about it so it’s only right to generalize. Palestinians who support Hamas are right: it’s the only army who’s willing to resist and defend them.
shut the f*** up im not even gonna read this bullshit
talk to someone else
all i learned today is that HFM is down kill civilians if deemed politically necessary
how has the cia not reached out with a position yet
My first post, and many after, said it’s wrong to kill civilians, but that should not be the focus due to a power imbalance
It sounds like you don’t have any points, cause everyone can read my posts
My first post, and many after, said it’s wrong to kill civilians, but that should not be the focus due to a power imbalance
It sounds like you don’t have any points, cause everyone can read my posts
so when should it be the focus?
like are you braindead? you cant think about multiple things at once?
ive never once claimed that palestinians shouldnt have a right of return, east jerusalem, no blockade, etc because of hamas actions
so why do u think pointing out that gaza is being run by terrorists should have any harm in actually helping palestinians?
I wanna hate on this really badly but I know when to shut up
Why do you want to hate on this? You realize by saying this you’re NOT shutting up right?