RIP_Actavis

4y

Remove In The Bible & N 2 Deep

But KEEP Knife & Fountains

Ya'll crazy

SauceTooMuch

4y

Totally agree. I was so hyped to see Fair Trade on the album, then was massively disappointed after seeing Travis as a feature. This album was not cohesive at all. Total mess

DirtyTrees

4y

this mf didn't like the Travis feature and decided to call the whole album "a total mess"

shut the f*** up and change avi

Klaus

4y

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Pretty much agree with everything you said. Most of the songs with features Drake adds nothing to them and they feel like him featuring on the other artists songs instead of the other way around which ironically is what he is known to do to other people so that's already hugely disappointing that he is letting that happen to him on his own album.

Every project post IYRTITL has a had creative choices that have missed the mark. There were a couple on Views and More Life but on Scorpion and CLB there are way too many.

Ways to fix CLB and turn it into a classic:

• Papi's Home should have had one more verse or Nicki should have had a verse. Usually I wouldn't want Nicki on his album but a song about sonnin niggas? That's right up her alley!
• Remove: Girls Want Girls, In The Bible, Way 2 Sexy and N 2 Deep and give them to the artist's on the song.
• I would keep Knife Talk and Fountains, and IMY2 though but he has to have more verses/presence on those songs.
• He should have 100% rapped on Yebba's Talk. Probably the biggest disappointed. Was so excited to hear him on a track from an artist so differently from who he usually works with and of course he doesn't say a word on it.
• Take Hov off of Love All and add back the outro and extend the slide through part. Put Hov another song like No Friends In the Industry, Papi's Home, Knife Talk or entirely new song where they both just spazz on some lyrical s*** like they should have done.
  F***ing Fans should have definitely had Party.
• Champagne Poetry could have been Tuscan Leather level but he sounds so bored and lifeless on it. I wish he had the same level of energy on last couple bars going on through the whole song.
• TSU intro should have been shorter or maybe the outro and should have been called Not Around. Didn't care for the beat switch either. I mean I wanted one but that one was very mediocre to me. He is usually the king of beat switches but the ones on this album have been boring and unnecessary.
• THAT REMA RECORD SHOULD HAVE MADE IT!

Overall I wish he had more to say. I remember I time he said if the words he says don't make people feel things like they used he'd retire. They haven't for years and he still going because people nowadays don't care about that anymore and only care if something slaps or not.

It's just another messy Drake album. Like ya said no cohesion, concept, purpose or anything just same old same old and if he was going to do that at least make the songs high quality. But nah we get s*** like Girls Want Girls and Way 2 Sexy. All this album proved was that he is as corny as everyone says he is and he puts mid like everyone says he does. Was hoping he'd prove everyone wrong but he just proved them right.

OVOJersey

4y

Bro you made your points and there’s like 30 threads like this.. you don’t like it.. we do.. nothing really to constructively discuss.. it’s a music forum not the continental congress 😂

texasbrisket

4y

N 2 Deep is amazing what tf kinda music y’all like?

MrNikeSwagg

4y

Ain’t seen one thread that specifically brought up the points I brought up.

There’s plenty to constructively discuss. We all have different opinions, and those or are competent enough to the contribute to the conversation should. And those who aren’t, like yourself, shouldn’t (and apparently) can’t.

levii

4y

im not reading your essay complaining about the album a day after it drops im gonna sit back and just keep listening

there's a 0% chance you will agree with half the things you just wrote a year from now

Klaus

4y

· edited

Pretty much agree with everything you said. Most of the songs with features Drake adds nothing to them and they feel like him featuring on the other artists songs instead of the other way around which ironically is what he is known to do to other people so that's already hugely disappointing that he is letting that happen to him on his own album.

Every project post IYRTITL has a had creative choices that have missed the mark. There were a couple on Views and More Life but on Scorpion and CLB there are way too many.

Ways to fix CLB and turn it into a classic:

• Papi's Home should have had one more verse or Nicki should have had a verse. Usually I wouldn't want Nicki on his album but a song about sonnin niggas? That's right up her alley!
• Remove: Girls Want Girls, In The Bible, Way 2 Sexy and N 2 Deep and give them to the artist's on the song.
• I would keep Knife Talk and Fountains, and IMY2 though but he has to have more verses/presence on those songs.
• He should have 100% rapped on Yebba's Talk. Probably the biggest disappointed. Was so excited to hear him on a track from an artist so differently from who he usually works with and of course he doesn't say a word on it.
• Take Hov off of Love All and add back the outro and extend the slide through part. Put Hov another song like No Friends In the Industry, Papi's Home, Knife Talk or entirely new song where they both just spazz on some lyrical s*** like they should have done.
  F***ing Fans should have definitely had Party.
• Champagne Poetry could have been Tuscan Leather level but he sounds so bored and lifeless on it. I wish he had the same level of energy on last couple bars going on through the whole song.
• TSU intro should have been shorter or maybe the outro and should have been called Not Around. Didn't care for the beat switch either. I mean I wanted one but that one was very mediocre to me. He is usually the king of beat switches but the ones on this album have been boring and unnecessary.
• THAT REMA RECORD SHOULD HAVE MADE IT!

Overall I wish he had more to say. I remember I time he said if the words he says don't make people feel things like they used he'd retire. They haven't for years and he still going because people nowadays don't care about that anymore and only care if something slaps or not.

It's just another messy Drake album. Like ya said no cohesion, concept, purpose or anything just same old same old and if he was going to do that at least make the songs high quality. But nah we get s*** like Girls Want Girls and Way 2 Sexy. All this album proved was that he is as corny as everyone says he is and he puts mid like everyone says he does. Was hoping he'd prove everyone wrong but he just proved them right.

levii

4y

im not reading your essay complaining about the album a day after it drops im gonna sit back and just keep listening

there's a 0% chance you will agree with half the things you just wrote a year from now

levii

4y

clb a classic out now

MrNikeSwagg

4y

Almost every feature on the album, either…

1. Would’ve been better off as a DRAKE feat on the featured artist’s album.

or

2. Was needlessly shoehorned onto the latter half of a track.

Examples of (1):

• Girls Like Girls would’ve been better off as a Drake feat on a Lil Baby album.

• In The Bible could’ve easily been a Drake feat on a Lil Durk album.

• Way 2 Sexy sounds way more like a Future or Thug song, than it does a Drake song.

• Knife Talk is so clearly a 21 song that Drake hopped on and got from him.

• Fountains was hardly even a Drake song. Would’ve been a nice feature if it were on TEMS album.

• IMY2, again, sounded way more like a Cudi song than a Drake song.

Examples of (2):

• I know we only know this cause of the leak, but adding Jay and cutting off the outro of Love All was such a huge mistake.

• Fair Trade would’ve been 10x better without Travis, I’m sorry (and I’m a big fan of Travis).

• N 2 Deep is really good in the first half, then he had to go with that beat switch and add Future on it, which I feel was super unnecessary.

On a DRAKE album, I expect all of the songs to have a distinct Drake sound and any featured artists have to work with what he has to achieve harmony. Instead, almost all the features on this album, sounded like they originally belonged to the featured artists, Drake hopped on it, and then just took it for his own and put it on the album.

Because of this, the vibes of this album are all over the place. It’s scatterbrained and asynchronous. There’s no cohesion or rhyme or reason to anything really.

Taken individually, I don’t have too many issues with the songs themselves. As a collective, as a project tho… it’s a mess and disappointing.

OVOJersey

4y

You’re argument can be surmised into “drake had too many features”.. it’s essentially everyone’s core critic.. it’s too bloated.. there’s too many songs.. we don’t care about the people besides drake.. yeah well hundreds of millions of people do my guy.. it’s not that anyone’s not capable of having the discussion my super highiq friend.. that’s quite simple.. it’s that the point has become so redundant that it’s become reductive in how it lacks awareness.. you SUBJECTIVELY think this.. I SUBJECTIVELY love all the features.. durk snaps, baby thrives, HOV blesses us, future murders, giveon floats, we got the best Wayne verse in a decade, Travis left his guts out in that feature.. what you want me to discuss is why I think DRAKES album sounds better how YOU want it.. your points have been asserted by others in one form or another ad nauseam

RE1GN

4y

I agree up until your fair trade point

Travis was the perfect addition

Nozuka

4y

My biggest issue is that it’s garbage :(

MrNikeSwagg

4y

Fr? You liked that beat switch?

MrNikeSwagg

4y

Lol, but it’s not tho. The core of my gripe is that the features are more __ featuring drake and not drake featuring __.

I’m completely fine with the amount of features AND who was featured.

So high IQ or not, if you had the comprehension level to understand what I said in my original post, you wouldn’t have had to write everything you wrote that is missing my point entirely.

Of course everything is subjective. So to have a conducive conversation, others can provide their feedback and not just s*** post.