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5y

If you don’t want to support Dave or Netflix then pirate it

But you can’t criticize something you haven’t watched lol

SIGH

5y

This controversy is legit the best thing that’s happened to Dave’s career in the last 5 years. The rest of his specials on Netflix came and went

Lou

5y

what if i watched the first 20 minutes then shut it off because it he told 1 joke and it wasn’t funny?

Lou

5y

what if i watched the first 20 minutes then shut it off because it he told 1 joke and it wasn’t funny?

gabapentin

5y

what were the things he said in this particular special, besides the aforementioned "team TERF" comment

SIGH

5y

This controversy is legit the best thing that’s happened to Dave’s career in the last 5 years. The rest of his specials on Netflix came and went

Smacked Voodoo

5y

Timestamp 14:50 - He starts speaking about not liking the new gays because they are "sensitive and brittle" and how he misses the old gays or the "Stonewall gays" cause they wouldn't stand for s***.

This alone confuses me as to why he feels a way when new gays and trans people are calling him out for his homophobia and transphobia. Like my guy you just said you respected the old gays cause they wouldn't stand for offensive s*** and would fight back...why do you feel a way now?

Timestamp 20:18 - Tells the story of a lesbian tryna feed a fake story to TMZ about him beating her up because she's a lesbian. In order to prove that he isn't homophobic and wouldn't do that, he says "Bitch I didn't even know you were a lesbian I thought you were a man". Also keeps calling this person a "lesbian fellow", continues to liken this woman to a man. All that is pretty self-explanatory as to how that can be taken as offense. Maybe it's just a fake story created for a bit, which is what I believe it is, but yeah probably shouldn't be calling a lesbian, who is telling you they are a woman, a man.

Timestamp 28:42 - "Frumpy dykes" . Again that's a pretty explanatory, especially when it's being used to refer to feminists. Within context he's saying that's what he used to think of feminists.

Timestamp 30:21 - Goes on to speak about the feminist movement in America, after retelling the story of his interaction with a Black comedy writer (who also happens to be my mentor) Angela Nissel, and how the feminist movement has always seemed to put white womanhood first above/before all else. Feel like this is pretty good context to keep in mind when he goes into his TERF talk and aligning himself with with TERF ideals/talking points. Much of the TERF standpoints, radical feminism, stems from white womanhood centric feminism that is intrinsically anti-male and anti-trans.

Timestamp 34:15 - Yeah this the whole trans bit. He uses the typical "bathroom argument" in regards to discussing trans issues, and while he does state that it is a "mean law" against trans people...the language he uses in this just not help his case in not being transphobic. Especially when he goes on to say he'd feel more comfortable with a man with a vagina backing up to use the urinal next to him. In this segment he is saying he is not indifferent to the suffering of others. Cool...why does he always seem to have a bone to pick with trans people especially whenever they say he is being offensive towards them?

Timestamp 42:15 - Aight now this is the lead up to him getting into his "gender construct" talk which to me is very irrelevant, watching it back. I think this was just a bit he used to talk about a Black slave master and educate some people on that man. Issa cool tidbit of information, you can tell he's studied this man. It's just...strange how he is using this as a means to segue into his more transphobic part of the special. As I mentioned earlier itt, he takes a very old racist white politician against educated Blacks in the Jim Crow era standpoint with this topic. "They make up words to win arguments" it's just...not how it works b.

Timestamp 50:15 - Starting to get into invalidating trans issues, this transwoman is calling him out for his transphobia, telling him to not punch down on their people citing decades of violence and harm enacted on them. Chappelle in this story, looks towards this transwoman two Black friends and tells them "Is there anything you wanna say to this b****?" This is an old story he is recounting, so you'd think that he likely has grown from this interaction and has learned some of the things that trans people faced for hundreds of years.

Timestamp 51:20 - Listen...all I can say as a response to the things he is saying here is...Black trans people exist. They have been getting offended by the takes you been having. I know Chappelle's stance seems to stem more from being anti-whiteness, which is cool and a very fair stance to take. Earlier in the special I fully agreed when he said that gay people are quick to revert back to their whiteness whenever they're in trouble against a Black person. I've witnessed it personally a number of times as an ally to the LGBTQ, which is why over the years I've started to primarily care more about Black LGBTQ. I fully understand his standpoint, he comes from a place of being about Black people as a whole, and is also showing he doesn't care about white people. Got it. But my question to him is, what about the Black trans community who are offended by what he is saying, because whether he believes it or not, it is creating a more dangerous environment for them as well?

Timestamp 52:27 - JK Rowling TERF talk, we covered it itt I ain't gotta repeat it. "Gender is a fact" there have been many scientific and psychology journals and essays that differentiate s***and gender that validates trans existence and shuts down TERF talk. The whole "Y'all just make up words to win arguments" bullshit this, that, and the third. I will say that I fully agree with what he said about Caitlyn Jenner getting "Woman of the Year" when she has only been a woman for a single year. That is pretty ridiculous. And I feel like that whole thing has aged terribly as we see now, Caitlyn Jenner is still a pretty s***ty person. Very much represents what Chappelle is talking about in regards to white gays and white trans.

Timestamp 55:05 - Pretty much "I'm not saying transwomen aren't women...but y'all aren't women because of your p****". Like...come on man lmao

Timestamp 56:07 - "I'm not transphobic! I had a trans friend and they laughed at my transphobic jokes! I even let her open for one of my shows!" This just not how it works b. One person not being offended by your transphobic jokes, does not absolve you of people calling you out for transphobia. Just apologize. If Eddie Murphy can do it, a nigga who has said WAY WORSE transphobic s*** in his stand up specials can reflect and apologize, you can too. And that's all the trans community wants. They know they aren't "canceling" Dave Chappelle. You know how much money that nigga got from Netflix just to do these specials? The amount of views they have gained? I think the nigga won a Grammy for one of em. What the trans community wants, is an apology, and it's because his rhetoric and his jokes has allowed transphobes to feel comfortable in their transphobia.

Smacked Voodoo

5y

Timestamp 14:50 - He starts speaking about not liking the new gays because they are "sensitive and brittle" and how he misses the old gays or the "Stonewall gays" cause they wouldn't stand for s***.

This alone confuses me as to why he feels a way when new gays and trans people are calling him out for his homophobia and transphobia. Like my guy you just said you respected the old gays cause they wouldn't stand for offensive s*** and would fight back...why do you feel a way now?

Timestamp 20:18 - Tells the story of a lesbian tryna feed a fake story to TMZ about him beating her up because she's a lesbian. In order to prove that he isn't homophobic and wouldn't do that, he says "Bitch I didn't even know you were a lesbian I thought you were a man". Also keeps calling this person a "lesbian fellow", continues to liken this woman to a man. All that is pretty self-explanatory as to how that can be taken as offense. Maybe it's just a fake story created for a bit, which is what I believe it is, but yeah probably shouldn't be calling a lesbian, who is telling you they are a woman, a man.

Timestamp 28:42 - "Frumpy dykes" . Again that's a pretty explanatory, especially when it's being used to refer to feminists. Within context he's saying that's what he used to think of feminists.

Timestamp 30:21 - Goes on to speak about the feminist movement in America, after retelling the story of his interaction with a Black comedy writer (who also happens to be my mentor) Angela Nissel, and how the feminist movement has always seemed to put white womanhood first above/before all else. Feel like this is pretty good context to keep in mind when he goes into his TERF talk and aligning himself with with TERF ideals/talking points. Much of the TERF standpoints, radical feminism, stems from white womanhood centric feminism that is intrinsically anti-male and anti-trans.

Timestamp 34:15 - Yeah this the whole trans bit. He uses the typical "bathroom argument" in regards to discussing trans issues, and while he does state that it is a "mean law" against trans people...the language he uses in this just not help his case in not being transphobic. Especially when he goes on to say he'd feel more comfortable with a man with a vagina backing up to use the urinal next to him. In this segment he is saying he is not indifferent to the suffering of others. Cool...why does he always seem to have a bone to pick with trans people especially whenever they say he is being offensive towards them?

Timestamp 42:15 - Aight now this is the lead up to him getting into his "gender construct" talk which to me is very irrelevant, watching it back. I think this was just a bit he used to talk about a Black slave master and educate some people on that man. Issa cool tidbit of information, you can tell he's studied this man. It's just...strange how he is using this as a means to segue into his more transphobic part of the special. As I mentioned earlier itt, he takes a very old racist white politician against educated Blacks in the Jim Crow era standpoint with this topic. "They make up words to win arguments" it's just...not how it works b.

Timestamp 50:15 - Starting to get into invalidating trans issues, this transwoman is calling him out for his transphobia, telling him to not punch down on their people citing decades of violence and harm enacted on them. Chappelle in this story, looks towards this transwoman two Black friends and tells them "Is there anything you wanna say to this b****?" This is an old story he is recounting, so you'd think that he likely has grown from this interaction and has learned some of the things that trans people faced for hundreds of years.

Timestamp 51:20 - Listen...all I can say as a response to the things he is saying here is...Black trans people exist. They have been getting offended by the takes you been having. I know Chappelle's stance seems to stem more from being anti-whiteness, which is cool and a very fair stance to take. Earlier in the special I fully agreed when he said that gay people are quick to revert back to their whiteness whenever they're in trouble against a Black person. I've witnessed it personally a number of times as an ally to the LGBTQ, which is why over the years I've started to primarily care more about Black LGBTQ. I fully understand his standpoint, he comes from a place of being about Black people as a whole, and is also showing he doesn't care about white people. Got it. But my question to him is, what about the Black trans community who are offended by what he is saying, because whether he believes it or not, it is creating a more dangerous environment for them as well?

Timestamp 52:27 - JK Rowling TERF talk, we covered it itt I ain't gotta repeat it. "Gender is a fact" there have been many scientific and psychology journals and essays that differentiate s***and gender that validates trans existence and shuts down TERF talk. The whole "Y'all just make up words to win arguments" bullshit this, that, and the third. I will say that I fully agree with what he said about Caitlyn Jenner getting "Woman of the Year" when she has only been a woman for a single year. That is pretty ridiculous. And I feel like that whole thing has aged terribly as we see now, Caitlyn Jenner is still a pretty s***ty person. Very much represents what Chappelle is talking about in regards to white gays and white trans.

Timestamp 55:05 - Pretty much "I'm not saying transwomen aren't women...but y'all aren't women because of your p****". Like...come on man lmao

Timestamp 56:07 - "I'm not transphobic! I had a trans friend and they laughed at my transphobic jokes! I even let her open for one of my shows!" This just not how it works b. One person not being offended by your transphobic jokes, does not absolve you of people calling you out for transphobia. Just apologize. If Eddie Murphy can do it, a nigga who has said WAY WORSE transphobic s*** in his stand up specials can reflect and apologize, you can too. And that's all the trans community wants. They know they aren't "canceling" Dave Chappelle. You know how much money that nigga got from Netflix just to do these specials? The amount of views they have gained? I think the nigga won a Grammy for one of em. What the trans community wants, is an apology, and it's because his rhetoric and his jokes has allowed transphobes to feel comfortable in their transphobia.

Smacked Voodoo

5y

Timestamp 14:50 - He starts speaking about not liking the new gays because they are "sensitive and brittle" and how he misses the old gays or the "Stonewall gays" cause they wouldn't stand for s***.

This alone confuses me as to why he feels a way when new gays and trans people are calling him out for his homophobia and transphobia. Like my guy you just said you respected the old gays cause they wouldn't stand for offensive s*** and would fight back...why do you feel a way now?

Timestamp 20:18 - Tells the story of a lesbian tryna feed a fake story to TMZ about him beating her up because she's a lesbian. In order to prove that he isn't homophobic and wouldn't do that, he says "Bitch I didn't even know you were a lesbian I thought you were a man". Also keeps calling this person a "lesbian fellow", continues to liken this woman to a man. All that is pretty self-explanatory as to how that can be taken as offense. Maybe it's just a fake story created for a bit, which is what I believe it is, but yeah probably shouldn't be calling a lesbian, who is telling you they are a woman, a man.

Timestamp 28:42 - "Frumpy dykes" . Again that's a pretty explanatory, especially when it's being used to refer to feminists. Within context he's saying that's what he used to think of feminists.

Timestamp 30:21 - Goes on to speak about the feminist movement in America, after retelling the story of his interaction with a Black comedy writer (who also happens to be my mentor) Angela Nissel, and how the feminist movement has always seemed to put white womanhood first above/before all else. Feel like this is pretty good context to keep in mind when he goes into his TERF talk and aligning himself with with TERF ideals/talking points. Much of the TERF standpoints, radical feminism, stems from white womanhood centric feminism that is intrinsically anti-male and anti-trans.

Timestamp 34:15 - Yeah this the whole trans bit. He uses the typical "bathroom argument" in regards to discussing trans issues, and while he does state that it is a "mean law" against trans people...the language he uses in this just not help his case in not being transphobic. Especially when he goes on to say he'd feel more comfortable with a man with a vagina backing up to use the urinal next to him. In this segment he is saying he is not indifferent to the suffering of others. Cool...why does he always seem to have a bone to pick with trans people especially whenever they say he is being offensive towards them?

Timestamp 42:15 - Aight now this is the lead up to him getting into his "gender construct" talk which to me is very irrelevant, watching it back. I think this was just a bit he used to talk about a Black slave master and educate some people on that man. Issa cool tidbit of information, you can tell he's studied this man. It's just...strange how he is using this as a means to segue into his more transphobic part of the special. As I mentioned earlier itt, he takes a very old racist white politician against educated Blacks in the Jim Crow era standpoint with this topic. "They make up words to win arguments" it's just...not how it works b.

Timestamp 50:15 - Starting to get into invalidating trans issues, this transwoman is calling him out for his transphobia, telling him to not punch down on their people citing decades of violence and harm enacted on them. Chappelle in this story, looks towards this transwoman two Black friends and tells them "Is there anything you wanna say to this b****?" This is an old story he is recounting, so you'd think that he likely has grown from this interaction and has learned some of the things that trans people faced for hundreds of years.

Timestamp 51:20 - Listen...all I can say as a response to the things he is saying here is...Black trans people exist. They have been getting offended by the takes you been having. I know Chappelle's stance seems to stem more from being anti-whiteness, which is cool and a very fair stance to take. Earlier in the special I fully agreed when he said that gay people are quick to revert back to their whiteness whenever they're in trouble against a Black person. I've witnessed it personally a number of times as an ally to the LGBTQ, which is why over the years I've started to primarily care more about Black LGBTQ. I fully understand his standpoint, he comes from a place of being about Black people as a whole, and is also showing he doesn't care about white people. Got it. But my question to him is, what about the Black trans community who are offended by what he is saying, because whether he believes it or not, it is creating a more dangerous environment for them as well?

Timestamp 52:27 - JK Rowling TERF talk, we covered it itt I ain't gotta repeat it. "Gender is a fact" there have been many scientific and psychology journals and essays that differentiate s***and gender that validates trans existence and shuts down TERF talk. The whole "Y'all just make up words to win arguments" bullshit this, that, and the third. I will say that I fully agree with what he said about Caitlyn Jenner getting "Woman of the Year" when she has only been a woman for a single year. That is pretty ridiculous. And I feel like that whole thing has aged terribly as we see now, Caitlyn Jenner is still a pretty s***ty person. Very much represents what Chappelle is talking about in regards to white gays and white trans.

Timestamp 55:05 - Pretty much "I'm not saying transwomen aren't women...but y'all aren't women because of your p****". Like...come on man lmao

Timestamp 56:07 - "I'm not transphobic! I had a trans friend and they laughed at my transphobic jokes! I even let her open for one of my shows!" This just not how it works b. One person not being offended by your transphobic jokes, does not absolve you of people calling you out for transphobia. Just apologize. If Eddie Murphy can do it, a nigga who has said WAY WORSE transphobic s*** in his stand up specials can reflect and apologize, you can too. And that's all the trans community wants. They know they aren't "canceling" Dave Chappelle. You know how much money that nigga got from Netflix just to do these specials? The amount of views they have gained? I think the nigga won a Grammy for one of em. What the trans community wants, is an apology, and it's because his rhetoric and his jokes has allowed transphobes to feel comfortable in their transphobia.

SIGH

5y

This controversy is legit the best thing that’s happened to Dave’s career in the last 5 years. The rest of his specials on Netflix came and went

Babaláwo

5y

Yea this better than Netflix giving him 40-50mil, or even better than him getting the rights to Chappelle Show back!

HaroldsChicken

5y

Y’all telling people specific parts to be offended about with precise time stamps

Smacked Voodoo

5y

Nigga they asked me to do it and I did just that

HaroldsChicken

5y

Time stamps but adding in your opinion about every moment leads to implicit bias