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  • Fam

    Nice thread, king.
    I'ma return to this and look into all of this info you provided
    Never looked into them before, but seeing the Kendrick, Cranes in the sky, 4:44, Kubrick, spike lee links and the first vid in OP

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    Damn just found out the gkmc short is a two-screen work as well only available version online is only one half of it apparently... it's already so good f***, need to see the full version. And Lemonade director's cut

    Plus Fly Paper from 2017 is supposed to be Joseph's most personal work but hasn't leaked yet either and I can't find this one by Jafa yet letterboxd.com/film/the-white-album

    Otherwise have seen almost all of their work, if anyone needs a link shoot me a pm on twitter

  • Marble

    The 4:44 video always been crazy good

  • FlyMx

    Great thread

  • FlyMx

    These dudes really inspire me creatively

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    damn apparently in December The Underground Museum hosted an online screening of a new version of BLKNWS preceding a screening of Lover's Rock from Steve McQueen's Small Axe. Kahlil is still making new iterations of the film, it's actual news. (peep this article for more info on BLKNWS: surfacemag.com/articles/kahlil-joseph-challenging-black-life)

    instagram.com/p/CIPUQzLhhB-

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    also noteworthy that The Underground Museum in LA was founded by Noah Davis, Kahlil's late brother who was a brilliant painter and motivated Kahlil to present his films as museum pieces, which also influenced Jafa later doing the same Barry Jenkins hosted the premiere of Moonlight there and Solange chose it for a first listening party of Seat at the Table

  • great thread

  • beflygelt

    Kubrick was terrified of flying and shot EWS in England in front of greenscreens (which imo helps make it even more dreamy), Sayeed was the DOP and Jafa the operator of all the New York footage.

    From the newyorker piece:

    One Saturday afternoon, when Jafa was ten, their parents dropped them off at the white people’s theatre on the other side of town to see Stanley Kubrick’s “2001: A Space Odyssey.” The theatre was empty except for a few white couples, who left before the intermission. “The lights go down, the movie begins, and it’s like being buried alive,” Jafa wrote, in a 2015 essay called “My Black Death.” “Even now, I’m still searching for an art experience capable of matching the effect this film had on me.” ...
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    There was a coda to the experience. In the mid-nineties, when Jafa was working as a cinematographer, Kubrick hired him to be a second-unit cameraman for “Eyes Wide Shut.” Kubrick shot most of the film in England, but it was set in New York, and Jafa spent a lot of time filming locations there. “We were constantly shooting things over and over, because Kubrick kept sending notes saying would we try it again three degrees to the left, or three degrees to the right,” Jafa recalled. “He called many times a day, and occasionally the assistant director would say, ‘Stanley’s on the phone, he wants to say hi,’ and I would say, ‘Not now, I’m shooting.’ ” In 1999, returning from Europe to attend the film’s New York première, Jafa saw a newspaper headline: “stanley kubrick dies at 70.” “Stanley Kubrick was one of my heroes,” he said. “There was so much I wanted to say to him, and I’d had this fantasy that when we finished shooting we’d be able to have a proper conversation. I went to the première and got very depressed, trying to figure out why I had never spoken to him.”

    Damn the article hit me hard

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    I’m in! I just need to know where I can find everything lol im just tryna dL or torrent their whole catalogue and go crazy in the crib. you did a great job with this thread my guy!

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    AvenueJones

    I’m in! I just need to know where I can find everything lol im just tryna dL or torrent their whole catalogue and go crazy in the crib. you did a great job with this thread my guy!

    majority of their work is on youtube and vimeo, almost always in HD too. Links in op

    Shoot me a pm on twitter (same username) and I can figure out a way to hook you up with Dreams Are Colder Than Death, Love is the Message, The Message is Death, Ms. Hillsonga and a version of BLKNWS too tho all of those essential for sure

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    beflygelt

    majority of their work is on youtube and vimeo, almost always in HD too. Links in op

    Shoot me a pm on twitter (same username) and I can figure out a way to hook you up with Dreams Are Colder Than Death, Love is the Message, The Message is Death, Ms. Hillsonga and a version of BLKNWS too tho all of those essential for sure

    That’s a bet! Imma tap in forsure I just went on their site and there is a scene playing from I’m assuming one of their films, you know which one?

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    All about you is one of my favorite songs and music videos of all time

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    AvenueJones

    All about you is one of my favorite songs and music videos of all time

    great song and rly inventive filming in that vid, love that shot of Pac on the toilet dunno if the message aged that well tho

  • AvenueJones

    That’s a bet! Imma tap in forsure I just went on their site and there is a scene playing from I’m assuming one of their films, you know which one?

    yeah you can watch Deshotten 1.0 on their site, a short co-directed by Jafa & Sayeed audio, editing and camerawork in that one is crazy

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    beflygelt

    great song and rly inventive filming in that vid, love that shot of Pac on the toilet dunno if the message aged that well tho

    The message of the video or the song? Because I’m still seein the same hoes everywhere I go

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    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxqByMIkfCo

    whoa thx for sharing this not directly connected to Jafa & co but def spiritually in line with it

    I actually knew the album but didn't know there's a short film, and such a sick one too. This makes me appreciate the whole project much more tbh. Still can't believe I wasn't vibing with ZelooperZ when I saw him open the Atrocity Exhibition show, he was just hanging around the merch table the whole time too today I'm lowkey more excited about his career than Danny's

  • AvenueJones

    The message of the video or the song? Because I’m still seein the same hoes everywhere I go

    I mean like both aren't exactly women-positive On that account Jafa's early work def aged better than Sayeed's. Not to take away from how sick it is he worked with all these legends in the 90s and 00s tho

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    beflygelt

    whoa thx for sharing this not directly connected to Jafa & co but def spiritually in line with it

    I actually knew the album but didn't know there's a short film, and such a sick one too. This makes me appreciate the whole project much more tbh. Still can't believe I wasn't vibing with ZelooperZ when I saw him open the Atrocity Exhibition show, he was just hanging around the merch table the whole time too today I'm lowkey more excited about his career than Danny's

    I remember going to an Atrocity Exhibition show in Philly and ZelooperZ was an opener. Dude was going in but the crowd just wasn't vibing with him til toward the end because they never heard him before. Such a shame too I was so excited for that show not just for Danny and Maxo, but also ZelooperZ been rocking with him for a minute.

    His time is definitely coming soon this underground hip-hop renaissance going on right now

  • kidkuro

    I remember going to an Atrocity Exhibition show in Philly and ZelooperZ was an opener. Dude was going in but the crowd just wasn't vibing with him til toward the end because they never heard him before. Such a shame too I was so excited for that show not just for Danny and Maxo, but also ZelooperZ been rocking with him for a minute.

    His time is definitely coming soon this underground hip-hop renaissance going on right now

    oh Maxo Kream I was surprised to hear Maxo (no Kream) being on tour with Danny lol. That also sounds sick af tho, Maxo Kream was killing it too

    Z is for sure making bigger and bigger moves, I'm confident ppl will catch up in due time

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    kidkuro
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxqByMIkfCo

    @DwindlingSun @CilviaDemo @AmoryBlain @sfsorrow @Drain_Cook @YoungNastyShawty @deepsleep y'all aware of this?

  • beflygelt

    @DwindlingSun @CilviaDemo @AmoryBlain @sfsorrow @Drain_Cook @YoungNastyShawty @deepsleep y'all aware of this?

    nah thank u for putting me on

    gonna watch when i’m done with this documentary

  • beflygelt

    @DwindlingSun @CilviaDemo @AmoryBlain @sfsorrow @Drain_Cook @YoungNastyShawty @deepsleep y'all aware of this?

    I will definitely check this out bro thank you, I’ve never seen this

  • kidkuro

    I remember going to an Atrocity Exhibition show in Philly and ZelooperZ was an opener. Dude was going in but the crowd just wasn't vibing with him til toward the end because they never heard him before. Such a shame too I was so excited for that show not just for Danny and Maxo, but also ZelooperZ been rocking with him for a minute.

    His time is definitely coming soon this underground hip-hop renaissance going on right now

    Lmao I was at that show, you’re right. He was making it work going in the crowd n all despite tht. That was an amazing show though, maxo and danny setlists were perfect and them coming out to Thirteen and Die Like A Rockstar as their openers was a dream come true

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