yeah that's true and sad really... it's way much bigger than if you like someone's personality

but that doesn't mean that's how you have to vote

The federal prison population actually fell in the 1980s

bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p80.pdf

The mass incarnations were mainly driven at the state level,
not saying biden and reagan didn't have anything to do with it by creating national policy and direction, i still don't think biden did all that sht

theintercept.com/2019/09/17/the-untold-story-joe-biden-pushed-ronald-reagan-to-ramp-up-incarceration-not-the-other-way-around

You can’t read that and tell me Biden innocent. Guaranteed you didn’t even know that. But keep selling your narrative

Kanye Biden beef is my favorite beef of all time

theintercept.com/2019/09/17/the-untold-story-joe-biden-pushed-ronald-reagan-to-ramp-up-incarceration-not-the-other-way-around

He’s fighting the DNC. He’s obviously gonna go harder at Biden than Trump who he’s been praising for 2 years.

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Your point was that Biden was the orchestrator of the War on D**** and that’s clearly false. Don’t backtrack and deflect now. Biden by no means has a great track record especially given his historical support of being hard on crime but he’s a far batter option than Trump and his current platform is far more progressive, not to mention if you put Trump in office, he’ll have the power to potentially make the Supreme Court a conservative dominated force that could strip women’s abortion rights, cancel DACA, among plenty of other scary things.

we got people defending the crime bill ITT ?

Biden was friends and looked up to an ex KKK leader and gave a eulogy speech at his memorial which Obama and Bill Clinton also attended.

Actually seems like an interesting read will peep later

The only thing Trump has done which compared to the crime bill is locking children in cages which Biden was also present for as vice president so he’s not even better than Trump at that.

How is that deflecting? I said Biden was a major key player behind war on d**** where everyone thinks it was Regan. If I need to dumb it down that means whatever Reagan rolled out as a president that was affiliated with war on d****, Biden was the man right there pushing him. I never said Biden just one day made the whole idea up, everyone knows Nixon has the idea first but Biden is the one who maximized on it. Hence the Jay z reference

Niggas underrate how peaceful of a president Trump has been internationally

Biden’s record isn’t necessarily one of being so violent overseas either but his hands aren’t any cleaner than Trump’s

i don't disagree

but i think people are more aware now and that started pre-trump. after a few years of obama we had occupy, by the end we had the more effective BLM.

people did eventually start to oppose obama. remember, people loved obama people are reluctantly supporting biden. they'll be much quicker to abandon and question him.

also the left, especially post-election will criticise Biden heavily. The left is more stronger irl than it was ten years ago but with how much social media has an influence rn, the left having a hold on younger people and social movements could make for some interesting moments of opposition during the biden presidency.

Plus he'll have the entire Trump right against him, which is stronger and lowkey hates Biden more than people like Bernie. Trump could stay a powerful force by first off not accepting the result and demanding attention which the media will give him, and then by having one of his kids or allies run in 2024.

Way more possibility for opposition during a biden era than an obama one. but yeah it is something to watch still.

Coonery

Or racists

Both sad

but again i'm not just talking about them as individuals but what those administrations would look like as a whole

i feel like trump puts personality politics on overdrive when it was already taking up too much of the conversation

intercept do lots of good journalism

ye don't do diss tracks...

but he about to make his second exception after nike

you can tell he's already got all the lines for biden lool.

wym we're in the middle of a pandemic and trump has swore off masks up until a week ago and has completely and utterly failed to protect the american public while we watch other countries around the world rebuild themselves

he openly aligns himself with alt-right/white supremacists, refusing to denounce things like confederate flag and cares more about statues of confederate traitors than actual american citizens who are dying due to police brutality

he is a b**** and i do not f*** with him

I’m perfectly fine acknowledging Biden’s s***ty history in response to crime but are we seriously acting like Trump wouldn’t have been just as hard lined 40 years ago? Times have clearly changed towards more progressive attitudes and regardless of how I feel about Biden as a person at least his administration is currently pushing for progressive policies. Trump’s attitudes on the other hand STILL literally support everything that the Crime Bill and the War on D**** stand for. The one thing I’ll give him credit for is the First Step Act but that’s such a tiny drop in the bucket that really doesn’t do anything in the larger scheme of things that it’s not even worth mentioning. It’s just a little virtue signaling meant to appeal to black voters. I wanted Bernie so f***ing badly but unfortunately that didn’t happen and between who we’ve got, you cannot tell me Trump is the better option. Again, Biden’s team has worked with Bernie’s the last few months to put together a more left leaning platform. It’s literally the most progressive one since FDR. Trump is calling it the most radical left platform we’ve ever seen which should be a good sign we’re actually getting somewhere.

And this can all be true but Trump’s policies have not been as damaging to marginalized communities as Biden’s.

Not even saying Trump’s policies haven’t hurt marginalized groups at all we obviously know they have. But Biden’s have been more hurtful plus we’ve seen the everlasting effect of them.

We’re pretty much asking the guy that f***ed s*** up for Black people to come in and fix it.

I was thinking this

trump wasn't really political like that till like 5 years ago tho. his kids were registered democrats and couldn't vote for him in the primary. that's how un-republican they were, now they could end up running as his successor in 2024

I think that makes a big difference. as you can tell i have a low opinion of both, but i really do think there's more risk in a trump second term than a depressing biden win