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  • Jun 17, 2020
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    OVOYMSZN

    @ovocrew what’s ur thoughts on this song ? 🙂

    Love it outro is something else, hbu?

  • Jun 17, 2020
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    I like this perspective on it tbh (read the whole thread)

  • Jun 17, 2020

    Great song

  • Jun 17, 2020
    fmvp yzy vert

    Most the replies breaking down the lyrics and flow definitely worth reading through it if you can, if you’re a fellow scholar of hip hop

    Just ignore the minority trolling and gossiping about disses

    Thanks for the detailed answer, will peep

  • Jun 17, 2020
    lg

    classic j snore

    Lmaooo

  • Jun 17, 2020

    I like the beat but Cole's delivery just made me realize how great some other conscious rappers are, like Noname

  • Jun 17, 2020

    yeeeeeeaaaah no way i'm talking about this on here

  • Jun 17, 2020
    DEL_245
    https://twitter.com/nqabamnyameni/status/1273173689064984581

    I like this perspective on it tbh (read the whole thread)

    Im not reading all that fam smh

    Every thread over 3 tweets should have a tldr

  • Jun 17, 2020
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    DonutHole

    Bad take , people learn all throughout life. Even doctors and professors need to update their profession regularly by learning new things.
    Also you can be ignorant in one field whilst proficient in another. Asking to be "schooled" in a more understanding way isn't that ridiculous if you ask me. : :​travolta:
    If every adult should just be left to their devices, we'll just have to accept that ignorance is going to reign free (as alot of people only invest themselves in topics their interested in).

    Stfu. J Cole isn’t being taught how to perform brain surgery here. The internet and books have plenty of material for him to learn about systematic racism, and the constant over exertion of force from the police department when it comes to black people.

    Same thing said to the whites say to him, nobody needs to hold your hand or watch their tone when calling out your shortcomings when it comes to things like this. If you’re wrong, take it upon yourself to lean about it noname had to do the exact same thing.

  • Jun 17, 2020
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    Whoa there buddy even doctors need someone to teach them how to be doctors. Hahaha

  • Jun 17, 2020
    SBMike

    Stfu. J Cole isn’t being taught how to perform brain surgery here. The internet and books have plenty of material for him to learn about systematic racism, and the constant over exertion of force from the police department when it comes to black people.

    Same thing said to the whites say to him, nobody needs to hold your hand or watch their tone when calling out your shortcomings when it comes to things like this. If you’re wrong, take it upon yourself to lean about it noname had to do the exact same thing.

    You maybe have valid points here
    wouldn't actually know though since I stopped paying attention at your unwarranted stfu
    Have a blessed one today, bye.

  • Jun 17, 2020
    SBMike

    Whoa there buddy even doctors need someone to teach them how to be doctors. Hahaha

    Keep barking

  • Jun 17, 2020
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    EMY

    Wait how is this directed at black women? Can someone explain?

    If you don't mind I'm gonna give you a long response to not just inform you but hopefully others.

    It could be directed towards Noname, but given the timing of the release and reading what was said it could also apply to black women as many black women have the same energy as Noname due to everything going on.

    Truth be told, black women, Noname included, are just rightfully venting their frustrations of being black women in America. Feeling like they always have to be the ones to educate niggas about s*** they should kinda know already. Feeling like it's the world against them and they don't have the full support of black men.

    As a black man , I've just been
    1. Letting these women have their time to air out their anger. Much of it is very deserved.
    2. Listening to what they're saying, understanding and reflecting on it.
    3. Not getting in my feelings and try to "But queen" these women because I know exactly the kinda niggas they're referring to, and it doesn't apply to me.

    What Cole is doing is pretty lame. And while yeah, I'm sure it comes from a good place, now ain't the time to "big bro" these women...honestly that's probably the very LAST thing you should do if you are trying to support black women during this.

    I'm not gonna lie, I've been seeing black women going harder than men when it comes to mobilizing and organizing s*** that's tryna help protect our black asses. Honestly, there's kinda always been a history of black women doing more than niggas when it comes most civil rights and social movements. So to try and "school" a black woman and how to educate people, and in regards to Noname who has literally been going out of her way to educate people in a fun and inclusive way with her book club that has been steadily gaining more attention throughout the year, it's like...Cole tryna "mansplain" s*** to Noname, or black women in general, really couldn't be a more obtuse.

    Hope this sheds some light.

  • Jun 17, 2020
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    EMY

    Either way twitter hoes deserve to be called out them hoes are mentally ill

    Ah never mind I see the kinda time you on

  • Jun 17, 2020
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    What’s up with Ari Lennox and Cole? Her even feeding the narrative no name needs to be defended / supported is kinda snakey if she has a real relationship with Cole ?

  • Jun 17, 2020
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    SinceKumbaya

    What’s up with Ari Lennox and Cole? Her even feeding the narrative no name needs to be defended / supported is kinda snakey if she has a real relationship with Cole ?

    Read my post above. It's black women sticking together.

  • Jun 17, 2020

    Selling first page spot

  • Jun 17, 2020
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Read my post above. It's black women sticking together.

    I get that as a general point but that means she thinks Cole is attacking her lol. It’s weird because you’d think she knows Cole character

  • Jun 17, 2020
    SinceKumbaya

    Lol

    https://twitter.com/_charlespreston/status/1273082233411309568

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    Smacked Voodoo

    Ah never mind I see the kinda time you on

    I think it’s important to separate normal black women and twitter hoes. The women on twitter don’t represent the average black women whatsoever. I’m completely in agreement with everything you said in your other post, and I think black women have a right to be angry. I have no problem with the women saying “protect us” or holding black men accountable, it’s the ones that just say “niggas aint s***” or “weakest link” or “bulletbags” that I have a problem with. Those are the ones I refer to as twitter hoes, their rhetoric actually isn’t helpful at all. Some of them be so hateful they sound like white supremacists.

  • Looks like the song is sparking a big division

  • Jun 17, 2020
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    Smacked Voodoo

    If you don't mind I'm gonna give you a long response to not just inform you but hopefully others.

    It could be directed towards Noname, but given the timing of the release and reading what was said it could also apply to black women as many black women have the same energy as Noname due to everything going on.

    Truth be told, black women, Noname included, are just rightfully venting their frustrations of being black women in America. Feeling like they always have to be the ones to educate niggas about s*** they should kinda know already. Feeling like it's the world against them and they don't have the full support of black men.

    As a black man , I've just been
    1. Letting these women have their time to air out their anger. Much of it is very deserved.
    2. Listening to what they're saying, understanding and reflecting on it.
    3. Not getting in my feelings and try to "But queen" these women because I know exactly the kinda niggas they're referring to, and it doesn't apply to me.

    What Cole is doing is pretty lame. And while yeah, I'm sure it comes from a good place, now ain't the time to "big bro" these women...honestly that's probably the very LAST thing you should do if you are trying to support black women during this.

    I'm not gonna lie, I've been seeing black women going harder than men when it comes to mobilizing and organizing s*** that's tryna help protect our black asses. Honestly, there's kinda always been a history of black women doing more than niggas when it comes most civil rights and social movements. So to try and "school" a black woman and how to educate people, and in regards to Noname who has literally been going out of her way to educate people in a fun and inclusive way with her book club that has been steadily gaining more attention throughout the year, it's like...Cole tryna "mansplain" s*** to Noname, or black women in general, really couldn't be a more obtuse.

    Hope this sheds some light.

    A history of black women doing more in civil rights? Interesting take, where do you get that from? Are hou talking today or all the way up to the 60s movement?

  • Jun 17, 2020
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    Smacked Voodoo

    If you don't mind I'm gonna give you a long response to not just inform you but hopefully others.

    It could be directed towards Noname, but given the timing of the release and reading what was said it could also apply to black women as many black women have the same energy as Noname due to everything going on.

    Truth be told, black women, Noname included, are just rightfully venting their frustrations of being black women in America. Feeling like they always have to be the ones to educate niggas about s*** they should kinda know already. Feeling like it's the world against them and they don't have the full support of black men.

    As a black man , I've just been
    1. Letting these women have their time to air out their anger. Much of it is very deserved.
    2. Listening to what they're saying, understanding and reflecting on it.
    3. Not getting in my feelings and try to "But queen" these women because I know exactly the kinda niggas they're referring to, and it doesn't apply to me.

    What Cole is doing is pretty lame. And while yeah, I'm sure it comes from a good place, now ain't the time to "big bro" these women...honestly that's probably the very LAST thing you should do if you are trying to support black women during this.

    I'm not gonna lie, I've been seeing black women going harder than men when it comes to mobilizing and organizing s*** that's tryna help protect our black asses. Honestly, there's kinda always been a history of black women doing more than niggas when it comes most civil rights and social movements. So to try and "school" a black woman and how to educate people, and in regards to Noname who has literally been going out of her way to educate people in a fun and inclusive way with her book club that has been steadily gaining more attention throughout the year, it's like...Cole tryna "mansplain" s*** to Noname, or black women in general, really couldn't be a more obtuse.

    Hope this sheds some light.

    The problem with what you said is Cole is literally dissing himself in the beginning of his verse. Says he has a low IQ etc

    I can't see how he's big broing these women when he appears to come at this from a place of humility

  • Jun 17, 2020
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