I don’t think any female rapper besides Lauryn Hill have undeniable classics
Missy has 2 (Supa Dupa Fly and Da Real World)
Successfully pop rap doesn't translate to being relevant to the culture (hip hop)
Im pretty sure that mc lyte, Lauryn hill even Roxanne shantay get more respect and are already cemented in the books
Also Missy Elliott exits (top notch producer an, rapper and performer)
You can wait on another pop rap sentasation with multiple chart breaking records, we got our queens
Lastly, we can appreciate Nicki for her succes too
I guess this is fair. Then again, she was brought up with co-signs from some of the most respected rappers of all time and under the wing of arguably one of the top 3 rappers of all time, along side an arguable top 5 rapper of all time. Under one of the most respected Hip-Hop labels of all time.
Let’s not pretend that Starships didn’t have Beez In The Trap as a B Side either. Nicki is def Hip-Hop.
And somehow she was one of the most talked about rappers in 2018. And every year since. And every year before that since 2010👀
Missy a good pick tho, Nicki only beating her by 2 years if we go by your timeline.
I’d still argue Nicki had bigger impact, maybe not a huge influence on the music genre itself but her aesthetic and global impact is undeniable.
You really typed out "Nicki was the most talked about in 2018" as if her gimmicks didn't earn her that spot she brought up Harriet tubman (TO FREEDOM 💣), Travis scott and his infant child, a bunch of rappers on the barbie dream song etc
Btw I’m no Nicki stan. I would just argue she is the definitive queen of Hip-Hop right now. I would not say it’s Missy who is currently not very active at all. Nicki still has a few years left at least.
ONE of. And all of that s*** came with music. The entire beef with her and Cardi became public through a song.
Name one female rapper as successful as her for as long as she’s been successful.
I will wait.
I like Nicki but Missy's relevancy and hits lasted pretty long. And Missy's biggest hits like Get Ur Freak On and Work It are still relevant today.
I don’t think any female rapper besides Lauryn Hill have undeniable classics
Lil Kim Hardcore?
Kala has my favourite MIA song (20 dollar), but Arular an incredible debut and has a flawless trackless to me.
Galang is like her best single ever. Songs like Sunshowers and Pull Up the People too
Kala only has having a major hit over Arular, I think Arular is a higher quality album
I think both could be seen as classics tho. MIA's career is crazy. She should never have been as successful as she was on paper given how underground her sound was and she did anyway.
Name one female rapper as successful as her for as long as she’s been successful.
I will wait.
Missy’s run from 1997-2005
Kala has my favourite MIA song (20 dollar), but Arular an incredible debut and has a flawless trackless to me.
Galang is like her best single ever. Songs like Sunshowers and Pull Up the People too
Kala only has having a major hit over Arular, I think Arular is a higher quality album
I think both could be seen as classics tho. MIA's career is crazy. She should never have been as successful as she was on paper given how underground her sound was and she did anyway.
both are amazing so I can't hate on this take
Nicki doesn't have a classic album but she has classic verses and moments. Not every artist needs a classic album to be a legend.
Missy, Lauryn and MIA are always gonna be better, more versatile, influential, legendary and creative than Nicki to me tho.
Ms Dynamite is better too and had better hits (if you're from the UK) but has 0 relevancy outside of the UK so get why she doesn't count in this conversation to most people. Nicki still probably like top 5 females tho
both are amazing so I can't hate on this take
MIA deserves more respect in the UK to me. I'm from the UK and she doesn't get treated like she's a top 4 UK artist of the 2000s/2010s, when she is to me.
Female UK GOAT alongside Ms Dynamite
I like Nicki but Missy's relevancy and hits lasted pretty long. And Missy's biggest hits like Get Ur Freak On and Work It are still relevant today.
That’s facts. As I said before I only consider Nicki the queen over Missy is because she’s actually still active. When Nicki retires the throne is up for grabs.
Name one female rapper as successful as her for as long as she’s been successful.
I will wait.
Yes, we know.. She's a rap icon.
But does she have a classic album? I'll wait
Yes, we know.. She's a rap icon.
But does she have a classic album? I'll wait
No
I don’t think she needs one to be the clear queen of this generation’s Hip-Hop. Who else would you consider the queen?
That’s facts. As I said before I only consider Nicki the queen over Missy is because she’s actually still active. When Nicki retires the throne is up for grabs.
yeah I feel like we got more from Missy tho too. Like just a more interesting career, that's got to count for something.
There's no world where anything Nicki's done means more to hip hop than helping define arguably the best producer of that generation and era's sound (Timbo).
No
I don’t think she needs one to be the clear queen of this generation’s Hip-Hop. Who else would you consider the queen?
No one. I never said it was a problem. But you said it like you had an attitude with everyone's observations 😂😂
Not every artist NEEDS a classic but it sef puts you a step ahead of the rest 🤷🏿♂️
No
I don’t think she needs one to be the clear queen of this generation’s Hip-Hop. Who else would you consider the queen?
She's easily the queen of the last decade but do you think Megan is hotter rn?
Either way a track like Big Ole Freak is better than anything Nicki has done these last few years and I actually like some Nicki music from the last few years unlike most of KTT