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  • May 4, 2020
    SHAQUILLE

    Yet the fbi couldn’t find anything

    that's a f***ing lie.
    keep sippin that coolaid

  • May 4, 2020
    discman

    discas comparing high art to a pedophile. i'm done. OUT

    /thread

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    ARCADE GOON

    Michael Jackson had black skin during Thriller so that alone hindered his popularity in Europe and Asia for a while. We're talking about the 80s here. Beatles never had that "disadvantage".

    MJ only became more popular outside of the US than inside the US in the 90s, when his skin turned more white, it was impossible to ignore his skill and non-blacks outside the US became more comfortable with black artists. Japan, Germany and so on really went crazy after him.

    MJ had a longer career and is probably better known these days, but Beatlemania was bigger worldwide than Thriller, even if Thriller is the biggest album of all time.

    MJ as an individual is more known than any single Beatle. Influence-wise I would say they are the same. Beatles still sold more overall. I like MJ more

    Uhhhhh then how’s Thriller the highest selling album globally?

    MJ was going play every week in his prime lol

    He toured the globe in the 80s

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    Sunny Sun

    Uhhhhh then how’s Thriller the highest selling album globally?

    MJ was going play every week in his prime lol

    He toured the globe in the 80s

    Because Beatles released like 8 albums in 4 years and MJ only 1

    Because music distribution wasn't as advanced in the 60s

    Becauses objectively the world was poorer in the 60s

    Because America is the biggest music market and MJ at his height was more popular there than the Beatles were, but not globally

    Because television and so on wasn't as widespread, nor did MTV exist

    It's like trying to compare streaming era numbers with iTune era numbers with CD era numbers and so on. N'Sync sold like 40 million on a single album. Norah Jones did like 25 million...

    The height of MJ fandom in Europe was actually HIStory, not Thriller. People here didn't believe the allegations like Americans did.

  • May 4, 2020

    Lay off the kid touching dope

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  • May 4, 2020
    Sunny Sun

    Uhhhhh then how’s Thriller the highest selling album globally?

    MJ was going play every week in his prime lol

    He toured the globe in the 80s

    Why doesn’t this help The Beatles’ case for popularity then? They stopped touring in 66 and still received worldwide acclaim

  • talking about how BIG artists are

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    and like i get it

    i'm of irish descent and i am proud that the two greatest songwriters of all-time (lennon/mccartney) were of irish descent.

    i know how mj could make a black person proud because of his accomplishments in music.

    but the dude was a f***ing pedophile.

    it's time to let that s*** go.

    kill your idols.

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    discman

    and like i get it

    i'm of irish descent and i am proud that the two greatest songwriters of all-time (lennon/mccartney) were of irish descent.

    i know how mj could make a black person proud because of his accomplishments in music.

    but the dude was a f***ing pedophile.

    it's time to let that s*** go.

    kill your idols.

    But do you see nothing wrong with Lennon’s actions?

  • May 4, 2020

    MJ was the most famous celebrity of our lifetime. Dude even had white people killing them selves when he died. Not to mention when he was living the way people would react to seeing him.

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    I seriously adore John and (most of his) music but good god he was a s*** tier human

  • May 4, 2020
    Tomorrow

    But do you see nothing wrong with Lennon’s actions?

    lennon was a POS.

    I'm not stanning him

    i feel for his first son julian

  • May 4, 2020

    Y'all gotta kill this Prince vs Michael Jackson narrative. MJ was poppin for 30+ years

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    Knew this was a Sunny Sun thread before I even clicked.lol

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    Because Beatles released like 8 albums in 4 years and MJ only 1

    Because music distribution wasn't as advanced in the 60s

    Becauses objectively the world was poorer in the 60s

    Because America is the biggest music market and MJ at his height was more popular there than the Beatles were, but not globally

    Because television and so on wasn't as widespread, nor did MTV exist

    It's like trying to compare streaming era numbers with iTune era numbers with CD era numbers and so on. N'Sync sold like 40 million on a single album. Norah Jones did like 25 million...

    The height of MJ fandom in Europe was actually HIStory, not Thriller. People here didn't believe the allegations like Americans did.

    I’m comparing them in general

    Overall accomplishments, impact & global fame

    Michael was way bigger

    They both had their disadvantages but Michael was superior, in terms of fame he’s literally equal or 2nd to Jesus after the spread of Christianity

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    Michael Jackson is probably the greatest pop star ever but In terms of musical impact, the Beatles outweigh MJ. Tho they were both the biggest in their eras.

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    MrIndigo96

    Knew this was a Sunny Sun thread before I even clicked.lol

    I honestly got triggered because of that Drake thread

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    Sunny Sun
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    I’m comparing them in general

    Overall accomplishments, impact & global fame

    Michael was way bigger

    They both had their disadvantages but Michael was superior, in terms of fame he’s literally equal or 2nd to Jesus after the spread of Christianity

    Pikachu more famous than both

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    Sunny Sun

    I honestly got triggered because of that Drake thread

    Drake thread? what they said Drake was bigger than MJ?

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    Sunny Sun
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    I’m comparing them in general

    Overall accomplishments, impact & global fame

    Michael was way bigger

    They both had their disadvantages but Michael was superior, in terms of fame he’s literally equal or 2nd to Jesus after the spread of Christianity

    Okay then if that’s the case then The Beatles very much beat MJ

  • May 4, 2020
    MrIndigo96

    Drake thread? what they said Drake was bigger than MJ?

    Yeah they did. Because he’s about to beat Madonna’s record for most top 10 singles

  • May 4, 2020

    mj stans do not respond to factual evidence

    there is no use engaging.

    these discas wrote let it be

    so the mj stans can let it be

    and get back to anheroing over their pedo hero

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    there’s just really no way you can say “not close” when they sold twice the amount of records as him as a group, not even accounting their solo work. I get It’s not solely based off sales, but with that taken into account, it is close. I agree with you that MJ is bigger, a fr larger than life figure and more recognizable than ANYBODY else in the world. but I feel it’s closer than all y’all are gibbing credit for

    people in huts in poor countries knew who mj was sit down bud

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