Nobody's saying Jay Z isnt a good artist, there just too many people who are better lyrically, and too many people who have better discographies for him to be ranked as high as he is.
Take away his money and he's pretty much Snoop Dogg
Why would he try when its common knowledge that straight liqyor ignites fire thats like putting water on an electrical fire how u not know this 💀💀
My G, you're taking this whole a***ogy too literally
Nobody's saying Jay Z isnt a good artist, there just too many people who are better lyrically, and too many people who have better discographies for him to be ranked as high as he is.
Take away his money and he's pretty much Snoop Dogg
You don't understand rap
If you had a good ear for rapping you'd get it
You don't understand rap
If you had a good ear for rapping you'd get it
Lool, I dont have enough intelligents to understand Jay Z god-tier rapping.
Okay.
Lool, I dont have enough intelligents to understand Jay Z god-tier rapping.
Okay.
Pretty much
Hov hasn't been good since AG
MMLP slander in this thread?
Wtf
MMLP slander in this thread?
Wtf
What you expect from people who think "made in the image of Christ, thats a selfie" is a fire bar.
Naw you don’t have to be black to comment on Jay Z. If you aren’t stanning Jay Z then the opinion isn’t valid. 😅
Jay Z is essentially the Metallica of rap. Kanye is Pink Floyd.
Run DMC is ofc The Rolling Stones.
Each genre has its cornerstones. Miles, Coltrane, Parker etc.
Everyone has their right to an opinion but to state something is overrated especially when you don’t understand it, one is better off keeping their mouth shut and learning more about the culture and what said music means.
People have to accept what’s great & learn it. Jay doesn’t even write his lyrics down b lol folks are acting like dropping these concepts off the dome is a walk in the park
I never doubted his rapping skills. But crafting songs and an album, nah he is not up there for me.
What you expect from people who think "made in the image of Christ, thats a selfie" is a fire bar.
Naw you don’t have to be black to comment on Jay Z. If you aren’t stanning Jay Z then the opinion isn’t valid. 😅
Jay Z is essentially the Metallica of rap. Kanye is Pink Floyd.
Run DMC is ofc The Rolling Stones.
Each genre has its cornerstones. Miles, Coltrane, Parker etc.
Everyone has their right to an opinion but to state something is overrated especially when you don’t understand it, one is better off keeping their mouth shut and learning more about the culture and what said music means.
People have to accept what’s great & learn it. Jay doesn’t even write his lyrics down b lol folks are acting like dropping these concepts off the dome is a walk in the park
Lupe wrote for jay
Nobody's saying Jay Z isnt a good artist, there just too many people who are better lyrically, and too many people who have better discographies for him to be ranked as high as he is.
Take away his money and he's pretty much Snoop Dogg
Seriously. Name a few. Come on.
I'll take the bait.
reasonable doubt, the blueprint, the black album and 4:44 are certified and proved classics. Not the ones you "kinda like" or the "its debatable.." 4 certified classics.
For the exception of Ye, name me somebody who can claim that.
Watch the throne is another classic. American Gangster is a debatable classic. Vol.2 is a great album. Check the longevity. Every great rapper of today is influenced by Jay. Drake Pusha Benny the Butcher Andre 3000... You cannott name one lyricist who does not praise Hov.
The only reason you dont see it that way is like i said you are a kid who knows nothing about the complexicity of rap. So go study the artform. Go live and learn. And stop with those stupid ass debates man...
lol you were probably born after black album came out shut your damn mouth lil dumpling
My nigga, I can guarantee I've studied the culture more than you have.
I can also see that all Jay Z stans have to back up their claims about his greatness are vague allusions to White rockstars and his money.
Oh, and also Beyonce, as if being married to someone makes them your possession.
Go listen to D'evils, Can I live, Renegade, Grammy Family Freestyle, Minority Report, The NeverEnding Story, Jail, Fallin, I know, Moment of Clarity and tell me when he mentions his money. I could go on. So you dont know what you talking about. So stop.
Such a non argument lol
Name me one ‘goat’ where this isnt the case
The man this site is NAMED after is literally the most glaring example of image over content
co🅿️e
your tracking another man to defend some other nigga
that ain’t 🅿️!
Nobody's saying Jay Z isnt a good artist, there just too many people who are better lyrically, and too many people who have better discographies for him to be ranked as high as he is.
Take away his money and he's pretty much Snoop Dogg
You never listened to much of Jay-Z nor Snoop Dogg saying s*** like this, lol.
Seriously. Name a few. Come on.
I'll take the bait.
reasonable doubt, the blueprint, the black album and 4:44 are certified and proved classics. Not the ones you "kinda like" or the "its debatable.." 4 certified classics.
For the exception of Ye, name me somebody who can claim that.
Watch the throne is another classic. American Gangster is a debatable classic. Vol.2 is a great album. Check the longevity. Every great rapper of today is influenced by Jay. Drake Pusha Benny the Butcher Andre 3000... You cannott name one lyricist who does not praise Hov.
The only reason you dont see it that way is like i said you are a kid who knows nothing about the complexicity of rap. So go study the artform. Go live and learn. And stop with those stupid ass debates man...
1. 4:44 is not a classic, talk less of an undeniable one. Neither is WTT. You letting the Hov echo chamber lead you wrong and I think you need to understand the difference between seminal works and above average albums.
2. Lyricists praise pretty much every top tier rapper, I can name similar "great rappers" that Eminem, Nas and Snoop have influenced. These artists also have similar longevity.
3. Jay Z is hardly the most complex lyricist, and I'm hardly a kid. Rage all you want, the fact remains that post-return from retirement Jay Z has dropped just one above average album and a slew of duds and he has been inconsistent as hell in his features.
Go listen to D'evils, Can I live, Renegade, Grammy Family Freestyle, Minority Report, The NeverEnding Story, Jail, Fallin, I know, Moment of Clarity and tell me when he mentions his money. I could go on. So you dont know what you talking about. So stop.
Can you read?
Go listen to D'evils, Can I live, Renegade, Grammy Family Freestyle, Minority Report, The NeverEnding Story, Jail, Fallin, I know, Moment of Clarity and tell me when he mentions his money. I could go on. So you dont know what you talking about. So stop.
Wait, Jail?
As in the song with Kanye?
As in, "made in the image of Christ, that's a selfie"?
Are you Hov fans serious?