carti been around for a decade
as has basically any artist that does well 😭u think people become superstars in 2 years of creating music
Lazer dim makes straight music and is good at punch in rapping don’t lump him in with the rest of them trash ass kids
He might have the ability for todays standards but last decade dude would’ve been considered the icejjfish of rap.
He might have the ability for todays standards but last decade dude would’ve been considered the icejjfish of rap.
Yea because last decade people were stupid more at 6
Like is there a single rapper who debuted post 2020 that can drop a album and do 200k+?
I can't think of a single person.
That is lowkey troubling as we are already almost half way into the year of the halfway mark of the decade.
The Artist Formerly Known as kanYe had a great lil conspiracy theory on this in the Ak interview speaking in the white man executive voice
Essentially “rappers last too long and are too powerful lets start making smaller stars”
and on this note I think of how the game did Chance lol even tho its kind of also his own fault
Olivia Rodrigo is way more popular now and only sold 10k more than her debut with 3 top 10 singles
let’s stop these disingenuous threads about rap because they never lead anywhere and in a year or 2 when the stats come out got ya’ll looking stupid in the face cause rap is fine, just got an over reliance on mainstream performance to form your opinions whether a genre is healthy or not
SPITTTINGFG
i wish the focus wasn’t just on rap tho in this conversation, they are ALL struggling and even worse. shiet the lawsuit for iHeartmedia is over country music and how fake that s*** is
Which exactly why I said entertainment cause facts I agree, the whole landscape changed in all of entertainment not just rap is struggling.
S*** even in acting a lot of the new ones are jobbers that can’t really carry a movie like the stars of last decade.
ya’ll ask so much out of rap that you don’t out of any other genre lmfao
the fact you can name those names after 3 decades of rap gold being handed to you and we still complaining now is HILARIOUS. just be patient, no other genre has this much required of it always to present new stars and scoping the current landscape to hindsight.
what about Meg? DaBaby? Lil Baby? Gunna? Glorilla? Jack Harlow? Doja Cat? Lizzo? to name a few post 2019
are we denying that these are stars who all debuted in the 2020s and had major control of the mainstream and still do somewhat? who are WAY bigger (look at the numbers) than those names you named at similar points in their careers?
mans aren’t counting doja cuz she’s more “pop” butt Nicki made STARSHIPS
nigga said blog era rappers who’s songs were big on blogs are bigger stars than current gen rappers with multiple billboard topping hits/albums at similar career points
see why this conversation is stupid?
Yea because last decade people were stupid more at 6
Nigga you defending lazerdim like he’s jadakiss lmao your iq in the low double digits at max 😂
Yea because last decade people were stupid more at 6
You in every thread with this same gimmick lol
Last decade mfs had standards until like 2016-17 and tbh the acceptance of that type music started in like 2009-2012 so Lazer would have been fine
Lmaoo niggas “last decade” let Lil B and Thug rock if not completely the generation that unfortunately shifted rap to its current place and you talking like they were niggas on a NYC philly street corner in 1999 to vaguely defend lazer being a relatively s***ty rapper lmao (unique style and flow tho forsure)
Why are rap fans like this now lmao
The Artist Formerly Known as kanYe had a great lil conspiracy theory on this in the Ak interview speaking in the white man executive voice
Essentially “rappers last too long and are too powerful lets start making smaller stars”
and on this note I think of how the game did Chance lol even tho its kind of also his own fault
the music business is trying to limit the size of a star in general, it's not just rappers, he's not saying anything revelatory
Nigga you defending lazerdim like he’s jadakiss lmao your iq in the low double digits at max 😂
I think what shows low IQ better is if you’re so lacking in any support for your point you rely on “well in the past this wouldn’t be accepted!” and calling someone stupid for liking a guy’s music instead of actually saying anything of substance
Nigga you defending lazerdim like he’s jadakiss lmao your iq in the low double digits at max 😂
Bro he do this in every thread
Any time a nigga vaguely talk about how rap has devolved or how niggas used to have more standards he right there to tell you why thats okay
Perfect representation of niggas who started really fw this s*** in 2015-2017 or after. Lmaoo just blindly defending them giving you a s***tier product
You in every thread with this same gimmick lol
Last decade mfs had standards until like 2016-17 and tbh the acceptance of that type music started in like 2009-2012 so Lazer would have been fine
Lmaoo niggas “last decade” let Lil B and Thug rock if not completely the generation that unfortunately shifted rap to its current place and you talking like they were niggas on a NYC philly street corner in 1999 to vaguely defend lazer being a relatively s***ty rapper lmao (unique style and flow tho forsure)
Why are rap fans like this now lmao
make arguments yourself about why he’s not good instead of appealing to past sensibilities is my point. Who cares what used to be accepted, that doesn’t mean anything I could just dismiss that by saying they aren’t credible.
Bro he do this in every thread
Any time a nigga vaguely talk about how rap has devolved or how niggas used to have more standards he right there to tell you why thats okay
Perfect representation of niggas who started really fw this s*** in 2015-2017 or after. Lmaoo just blindly defending them giving you a s***tier product
Because it’s not “devolving” actually. It’s EVOLVING and yall can’t cope with that. We value different things.
the music business is trying to limit the size of a star in general, it's not just rappers, he's not saying anything revelatory
I remember reading the WWE was doing this after John Cena as a kid lmao. Anthony Mackie also just said this about movie stars. Its kinda crazy but it does make business sense
I think what shows low IQ better is if you’re so lacking in any support for your point you rely on “well in the past this wouldn’t be accepted!” and calling someone stupid for liking a guy’s music instead of actually saying anything of substance
Word salad from a nigga defending lazerdim of all people 🥱
You don’t gotta convince me lil bro lmao it’s cool go enjoy your garbage in peace I’m not in your way at all gang 😂
Word salad from a nigga defending lazerdim of all people 🥱
You don’t gotta convince me lil bro lmao it’s cool go enjoy your garbage in peace I’m not in your way at all gang 😂
I know slightly bigger words are hard for u gang don’t worry I def will
Which exactly why I said entertainment cause facts I agree, the whole landscape changed in all of entertainment not just rap is struggling.
S*** even in acting a lot of the new ones are jobbers that can’t really carry a movie like the stars of last decade.
why they got Timothy doing anything and everything and he still not a star like, let’s say, Tom Holland who also ain’t really a star outside of Spider-Man
wild times. entertainers as household names might just be dead
Bro he do this in every thread
Any time a nigga vaguely talk about how rap has devolved or how niggas used to have more standards he right there to tell you why thats okay
Perfect representation of niggas who started really fw this s*** in 2015-2017 or after. Lmaoo just blindly defending them giving you a s***tier product
Btw your argument was that standards were higher because pharell and timbo and mannie fresh supposedly made such wildly different mp3s for their drum sounds then we established like atleast 5 dif producers who have their own unique 808s and styles 
as if that’s the most important thing for a producer to be unique anyway like what
make arguments yourself about why he’s not good instead of appealing to past sensibilities is my point. Who cares what used to be accepted, that doesn’t mean anything I could just dismiss that by saying they aren’t credible.
His style is intriguing but we’ve had 15 years of niggas just thinking of the first thing that comes to mind and saying it. He’d be so much better if this was even like 2009-2012 (Travis Porter Yung LA Future Gucci lol) and niggas didn't just accept anything/still put even a tiny bit of lyrical cleverness into even Atlanta fun music
He’d be much better if he took even 30 mins or so to write than just punching in with whatever. But the fans accept it so why would he do that lol
His style is intriguing but we’ve had 15 years of niggas just thinking of the first thing that comes to mind and saying it. He’d be so much better if this was even like 2009-2012 (Travis Porter Yung LA Future Gucci lol) and niggas didn't just accept anything/still put even a tiny bit of lyrical cleverness into even Atlanta fun music
He’d be much better if he took even 30 mins or so to write than just punching in with whatever. But the fans accept it so why would he do that lol
if he took time to write the music wouldn’t be in the raw form it is, and people don’t listen to him for that. It doesn’t matter. Not everyone prioritizes the same things in music. I don’t find lyrics that important in that music and I’d rather that effort be put somewhere else. You would like it more tho but that’s just you man.
Bro he do this in every thread
Any time a nigga vaguely talk about how rap has devolved or how niggas used to have more standards he right there to tell you why thats okay
Perfect representation of niggas who started really fw this s*** in 2015-2017 or after. Lmaoo just blindly defending them giving you a s***tier product
It’s like a nigga trying to say his opinion is right just cause he on the side of whatever bs is being pushed currently lmao like you’re literally the average joe bro just eating up whatever they put in front of you and act like you got great taste 😂
It’s like a nigga trying to say his opinion is right just cause he on the side of whatever bs is being pushed currently lmao like you’re literally the average joe bro just eating up whatever they put in front of you and act like you got great taste 😂
ironically enough I have had paragraphs detailing exactly how I feel and the reasons why. You are the one who simply is getting by on calling people dumb and calling s*** trash because it’s not what would be around in the past. Thug is probably like one of the greatest artists in this genre of all time they would not have accepted him in the 90s
Btw your argument was that standards were higher because pharell and timbo and mannie fresh supposedly made such wildly different mp3s for their drum sounds then we established like atleast 5 dif producers who have their own unique 808s and styles 
as if that’s the most important thing for a producer to be unique anyway like what
You’re completely mixing up what I said because you have a vague allegiance to how music has devolved or combatting any criticism of modern rap and dont actually care about this convo lmao
I posted jet/suge 808 as the rare example of it not being impossible for niggas to “make” new drum sounds the same way you said Spinz 808 was invented in 2011 after you said that was impossible to do. You’re trying to play that game of “i contradicted myself” but actually you did and my overall point being Spinz and Jet are the rare people doing that.
I brought up monte booker as an example of someone who should have had a run as the top guy like he would have if s*** still operated with originality and fresh s*** as the top priority of upcoming artists rather than trying to make their own version of the last Boston Richey Carti Future Thug song they liked lmao. Again how many of those are there vs niggas making some variation of glo carti drill trap etc type beats
And lastly they didnt “invent those sounds from scratch” and I never said they did. They tweaked presets and sounds that they found from non overused sources because there was no drum kit culture to recycle the same 50 drum sounds for 15 years lmaoo