Nigga rambling the first thing off the top of his head about stuffing backwoods fine shyt and selling weed isn’t “rawer” than DMX articulating his f***ed up mindstate lmao. Words mean things nigga

Ur whole thing was them making the sound. And I listed like 8 people who all have their own unique 808s and styles. Jetson and Montey are two people, u named three. And yes as a genre grows, styles become more established and we tweak those further, you think mannie fresh physically played those drums?

Again, producing and beat making is mostly an intuitive process I don’t think every subgenres top producers need to have completely unique MP3s they created to define if their style is unique and innovative. It’s just an arbitrary metric. It’s about if the product u create as a whole is unique and fresh, which I can name like 20 producers who produce such!

Anyway we won’t agree no need to retread old ground

This perfectly describes all rap discourse that can’t acknowledge that s*** has changed since 2016 lol. Just blindly defending what is already happening regardless lmao

The lyrics don’t matter in his music. Not all music do lyrics matter, sometimes they are not the priority. And neither is substance. Sure it’s good to have, but not all music is tryna do that. Meet the music where it’s at. The audience doesn’t care about ts. You care about lyrics. That’s cool. Not everyone does. And that’s okay, that doesn’t make it bad music just means there’s other things that matter for it

che otw

You’re going all over the place trying to play contrarian to every little thing and we’ll be here forever lol

Bottom line when it comes to tweaking sounds Three 6 mafia mannie fresh lil jon in the 90’s etc all probably had access to the relative same equipment/starting sounds and were all in that proto trap lane of southern rap beats and sound completely different. If you dont see how that is different today and how a nigga in NYC atlanta LA could all have the same sound what else is there to talk about. Lmaoo enjoy your 2020’s rap music bro but there’s a reason why completely separate unrelated niggas ask whats wrong with rap every other business day on here/twitter/youtube etc lol

We used to get new sounds and rapper “types” from scratch. Cudi Ye Wayne Future even…they dont have any direct predecessors now everyone y’all d*** ride is a variation of Thug Keef Carti/Lone/Ken lmao

I genuinely feel bad for niggas like you who were just too young to witness wht rap was like in real time before like 2014 lmao but hey it is what it is. You just legitimately don’t understand what you’re talking about and before you even try to a***yze and understand you just looking for s*** to be contrarian about lmao

Yea and trap producers make wildly different products nowadays compared to like most of those southern producers in that time. Pierre F1LTHY cash cobain and jetson make wildly different beats. Crunk Memphis and trap are 3 different subgenres, by the way. You’re comparing them to producers in the same subgenre. I could just whip out 3 dif subgenres and compare them too, dawg

We not gonna agree on this tho might aswell just not retread old ground

They working that dude and zendaya to death atp 😂 I would say sydney sweeney too but tbh I’m noticing she gets talked about and posted more than she acts.

But why tf does it feel like those are the only two actors that matter in Hollywood rn. And if it isn’t timothee it’s robert pattinson. Lowkey the teen heartthrob movie star to respected hollywood actor pipeline is too obvious and forced rn. I want to see new movies with some new faces which isn’t that hard to do. Not s***ty remakes with the same actors that get spammed on social media everyday. Why waste millions multiple times a year just to create that?

No lmao

It was intriguing for like 3-4 songs now I don’t even check for bro. He’ll be fine im sure but i dont need more bullshit low effort music if its not doing something new or its not just that good lol

and then the nigga beats f***in suck. Someone like carti or travis at least understands you gotta fill it up with ear candy if the raps aint gonna have any effort

I mean yea you jsut don’t like lazer dim that’s fine I don’t listen to him much either I think he’s okay. I’d def say he’s very different and makes new s*** tho.

But lyrics don’t have to matter in all music. A song with inconsequential substance or lyrics can be just as great as one with the best you can find. Cause it’s about the song as a whole at the end of the day.

Crazy how almost all of the guys are on these type threads talking about how it sucks there’s no new guys but I don’t see many of u in my thread about new music that this has eclipsed in 4 hours after I’ve been working on mine for days 🤔 start supporting these artists perchance and tap in

And that’s not to say that era didn’t have a lot of garbage too, it obviously did but even a lot of the stuff being labeled “mumble rap” and trash in that era I still loved it regardless of what it was called, it might not have been rap but it was music but this era of new underground stuff call it whatever you want, 99% of it just doesn’t sound good.

It has nothing to do with skill or ability cause a lot of simple, stupid songs still sound good to the ear. These dudes just aren’t musicians and it shows.

Another cheat code thread

2 got taken

I can see this. Even with Drake suing UMG.

They don't want to produce people who can go on to feel like they are "bigger than the program" word to Kanye himself.

This sorta idea is a part of my logical conclusion that the next “one” would have to be an artist that gets hot completely outside of the industry and immediately changes the nature of new artists ala Beyoncé’s Beyoncé influence on surprise releases of highly ambitious and focused attempted projects from mainstream artists

One who also has that mega hitmaking ability that seems to be reserved for those firmly in the industry system

And they’ll have to usher in the new sound

The new look

They don’t know who to copy anymore

Prefer 2010's hip hop overall but I lowkey see your point.

I remember when mad people were questioning hip hop's commercial appeal around 2010-2014 when only White rappers were getting number 1 songs and rap sales declined sharply from the early-mid 2000's.

Still had tons of classics but people do overestimate how popular hip hop was during that era. 2015-2018 was when hip hop truly became a dominant force last decade.

yb has been dropping all time songs for like 10 years now

you guys just want the execs back to controlling the information. pop stans in disguise lmao

to be a star from the 20s you would have started in the 20s

the weeknd being a star in 2025 does not equal him being from the 2020s

So Kendrick, J Cole and Drake weren’t stars of the 10s right?

Yeat but he started dropping mid after lyfe