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  • Aug 2, 2020
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    Odeon

    @THE_FILLMORE

    "wow the fact that i have a secondhand phone so i have a way to make an i come really helps prove that the exploitation of third world citizens for the global west is justified !!!!!"

    don't recall saying that. but the reason your secondhand phone exists and was affordable to you was due to capitalism

    simultaneously, capitalism required low income people like me to spend more of our hard earned money to overcome meaningless barriers like technology so that companies have a way to cut on costs

  • Aug 2, 2020
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    yes but if you were to try to buy those in those environments they would costs literally 100k's. the fact they are affordable and easily available was due to capitalism. not to mention Johann Philipp Reis & bell would've still invented the telephone independently. So socialism wasn't even needed

  • Aug 2, 2020

    please explain your dumbass reasoning

  • Aug 2, 2020
    free world

    stop making noname threads

  • Aug 2, 2020
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    Americana 2

    simultaneously, capitalism required low income people like me to spend more of our hard earned money to overcome meaningless barriers like technology so that companies have a way to cut on costs

    not sure what your point is here you have to overcome meaningless barriers like technology? technology is meaningless?

    and don't talk down on me if you want a discussion.

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    Odeon

    not sure what your point is here you have to overcome meaningless barriers like technology? technology is meaningless?

    and don't talk down on me if you want a discussion.

    i have no incentive to talk to someone so heartless that they would be okay with child labor and poverty so that they could receive technology that they use to further their own arbitrary personal value, well aware of the disgusting world we live in

  • Aug 2, 2020
    Americana 2
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    i have no incentive to talk to someone so heartless that they would be okay with child labor and poverty so that they could receive technology that they use to further their own arbitrary personal value, well aware of the disgusting world we live in

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    Odeon

    yes but if you were to try to buy those in those environments they would costs literally 100k's. the fact they are affordable and easily available was due to capitalism. not to mention Johann Philipp Reis & bell would've still invented the telephone independently. So socialism wasn't even needed

    Socialist governments of the past were more efficient when it came to heavy industry than most capitalist governments. The USSR for example had a higher electricity production rate per capita and a higher caloric intake than the USA.

    Their inefficiencies were in the light industry consumer segment. This is not a feature inherent to socialism, but rather just bad politics, because they gave too much priority to heavy industry in their planning, just like the USA is currently giving so much priority to the military that it harms the rest of the economy.

    Besides, nobody wants a USSR 2.0 anyway. You are trying to criticize a system that doesn't even exist yet for its hypothetical failures rather than looking at the reality of what actually exists.

    And you pointing out Bell proves that it is the laborer, in this case the engineer, who creates the phone. Under what economic system he functions is irrelevant to that fact.

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    Americana 2

    i have no incentive to talk to someone so heartless that they would be okay with child labor and poverty so that they could receive technology that they use to further their own arbitrary personal value, well aware of the disgusting world we live in

    Never did I say that and you know it. If I did, please show me some screenshots of that? I showed you respect but you don't even want to consider to respect me. I know enough, have fun in your little echo chamber. Nice discussion.

  • lucid 🍹
    Aug 2, 2020

    same niggas damn

  • Aug 2, 2020
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    EMY

    I promise you we don’t think this. Your a great poster tho so I know this post is from a good place, but the vast majority of Africans have no problem with their continent being glorified.

    Oh okay. I tried lol

    Why were so many people complaing when she first dropped the trailer tho? Is it cuz Disney plus isn't available in a lot of countries there? I know a South African hive who was excited about the event, but she said they don't D+ there.

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    Odeon

    Never did I say that and you know it. If I did, please show me some screenshots of that? I showed you respect but you don't even want to consider to respect me. I know enough, have fun in your little echo chamber. Nice discussion.

    being out here with your a****** open ready to defend an economic system that doesn’t give two s***s about you as someone who isn’t at the top of the pyramid and openly and admittedly allows for the use of unethical labor for the sake of creating profit is all i need

    stop posting dude seriously you look like an idiot

    come to america, where this idea of the american dream exists and you’ll see that it doesn’t. there is no economic mobility and you will be crushed under the heel of the rich

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    Socialist governments of the past were more efficient when it came to heavy industry than most capitalist governments. The USSR for example had a higher electricity production rate per capita and a higher caloric intake than the USA.

    Their inefficiencies were in the light industry consumer segment. This is not a feature inherent to socialism, but rather just bad politics, because they gave too much priority to heavy industry in their planning, just like the USA is currently giving so much priority to the military that it harms the rest of the economy.

    Besides, nobody wants a USSR 2.0 anyway. You are trying to criticize a system that doesn't even exist yet for its hypothetical failures rather than looking at the reality of what actually exists.

    And you pointing out Bell proves that it is the laborer, in this case the engineer, who creates the phone. Under what economic system he functions is irrelevant to that fact.

    without a reason, a monetary reason (the cornerstone of capitalism) bell and the like would have no reason to invent the telephone. The reason it got developed so quickly was because they wanted to make money. People like bell weren't trying to do it for the greater good. The reason it developed so quickly was because there was a market for it. That's the reason that most things develop quickly. markets. because everyone wants to be able to live life or hit it big. Thats why lotterys are so popular. Communism works with the idea that all people are morally good and work for the greater good. Reality is different. Why do you think iphones got invented by western countries? Why do you think everytime a communistic country gets set up it ends with a dictator grabbing power. Communists are dreamers, sometimes people can't accept that people are not inherently good. We are all just looking out for ourselves. If s*** hits the fan, you are going to buy that toilet paper if it's the last one left. Don't take this as a diss, I know a lot of ktt users love to talk down, but this is just my own reasoning.

    gtg

  • Aug 2, 2020
    Americana 2

    being out here with your a****** open ready to defend an economic system that doesn’t give two s***s about you as someone who isn’t at the top of the pyramid and openly and admittedly allows for the use of unethical labor for the sake of creating profit is all i need

    stop posting dude seriously you look like an idiot

    come to america, where this idea of the american dream exists and you’ll see that it doesn’t. there is no economic mobility and you will be crushed under the heel of the rich

    Im not interested in talking to someone who can't show respect to the person they're talking to, I do I wish you a lot of luck in life!

  • Aug 2, 2020
    Odeon

    without a reason, a monetary reason (the cornerstone of capitalism) bell and the like would have no reason to invent the telephone. The reason it got developed so quickly was because they wanted to make money. People like bell weren't trying to do it for the greater good. The reason it developed so quickly was because there was a market for it. That's the reason that most things develop quickly. markets. because everyone wants to be able to live life or hit it big. Thats why lotterys are so popular. Communism works with the idea that all people are morally good and work for the greater good. Reality is different. Why do you think iphones got invented by western countries? Why do you think everytime a communistic country gets set up it ends with a dictator grabbing power. Communists are dreamers, sometimes people can't accept that people are not inherently good. We are all just looking out for ourselves. If s*** hits the fan, you are going to buy that toilet paper if it's the last one left. Don't take this as a diss, I know a lot of ktt users love to talk down, but this is just my own reasoning.

    gtg

    A majority of humanity would be richer if labor was democratically organized. Only the elite percentage of society would suffer from socialism. If people are truly egotistical, they would not be capitalists, since they are the wagecucks getting f***ed over in their jobs. The only thing capitalism offers them is the fantasy that if they work hard enough, they too can become the next Bill Gates. In that, capitalism is like a lottery: The chances are slim to none. However, since everybody is a temporarily embarassed millionaire and small business owners who don't even earn that much in the grand scheme of things think they are the f***ing Rothschilds, people go against their own interests and perpuate a system where the top 1% owns more than the bottom 99%.

  • Aug 2, 2020

    People out here expecting people to have one unified opinion based on the fact that they're from the same continent lol

  • Aug 2, 2020
    Seafarer

    for once i agree with her.

  • Aug 2, 2020
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    beast444

    Oh okay. I tried lol

    Why were so many people complaing when she first dropped the trailer tho? Is it cuz Disney plus isn't available in a lot of countries there? I know a South African hive who was excited about the event, but she said they don't D+ there.

    The vast majority of the people complaining were not africans

  • Aug 2, 2020
    EMY

    The vast majority of the people complaining were not africans

    Oh so people were just hating. ok lol

  • Aug 2, 2020
    EMY

    The vast majority of the people complaining were not africans

    i am and while some posts replying to me made me look with more easy going eyes, i’m still not fully ok with it, but since most don’t care, ion care either i guess

  • free world

    stop making noname threads

    We need more Noname threads tbh

  • dope

    is this what ye talks about when he says slvery is a choice

    Not because Kanye also exploited african references for capitalism (make money). But he tried to say every black person or white person should determinate what they want and think in life by their own volition, and personal beliefs, not being manipulated, buts its complicate cause Ye himself sounded in some times manipulated