Crying

it truly is a beautfil thing

Classic braindead liberalism

it may not exist but a lot of people hold the principle of cancel culture irl I've met people that literally take s*** way too far with identity politics

Yeah irl it's not really a thing but the mentality is still f***ed

everyone has the right to say what they want it but it doesn't mean there won't be consequences for it..

NYT Opinion section always on some bullshit

Who authored the article?

I'm trying to figure out who is stopping anyone from aying what they want... Seems to me they want to say some bullshit and be able to say it without any consequences.

No worse than the made up rights you think exist...

even you dont believe this

as i have always said, all "rights" are made up social constructs, and to think that the most important and vital "rights" to enshrine upon humans is the immaterial and immeasurable metric of "freedom" or "liberty" is ignorant of the way the real world works.

we should at least come up with rights that have solid, definable material connections to things such as labor production, sustenance, shelter, transport, and social participation. then we can focus on innane, subjective, and malleable ideas like "liberty" or "expression"

the fact that this country's legal system is basically "lets have 13 people decide if this fits the framework of an extremely vague set of requirements from a 250 year old document" is ridiculous

Complete opposite tbh. Rights to goods and services means right to someone's labor which I would think you would be against? The "freedom or liberty" rights only require inaction from people/govt. Like the right to worship whatever you want. While a "right to transportation" requires other peoples labor in order to work.

dis thread has a very high jargon:comprehensibility ratio

Would you remove any of the amendments we currently have?

Rights to goods and services means right to someone's labor which I would think you would be against?

I’m not continuing this until you have a basic understanding of economics

America does not have a freedoms of speech problem.

Freedom of speech means the government can’t come after you to a certain extent.

People think it means they can say whatever they want and face no consequences or black lash

When people complain about freedom of speech it's usually just white people complaining why they can't use the n-word and not face consequences. I remember i said something to one my HS teachers complaining why i can't do something in a joking way and he told me something like "you can do it if you really want to and i can't stop you from doing it however you're gonna face consequences and that's what freedom is" and that s*** really changed how i think.

a lotta this article feels weird n outta touch

For all the tolerance and enlightenment that modern society claims, Americans are losing hold of a fundamental right as citizens of a free country: the right to speak their minds and voice their opinions in public without fear of being shamed or shunned.

like dis has never been an actual reality anywhere ever if we're talking country-wide or even population-greater-than-1000-wide

Elijah Afere, a 25-year-old I.T. technician from Union, N.J., said that he worried about the larger implications of chilled speech for democracy. “You can’t give people the benefit of the doubt to just hold a conversation anymore. You’ve got to worry about feeling judged,” he said. “Political views can even affect your family ties, how you relate to your uncle or the other side. It’s really not good.”

this too has always been a reality and is not new. an old adage used to be to never discuss politics or religion at the dinner table precisely because of the tension dis guy talks bout. there is a difference today tho in that today everyone wants/feels they need to talk bout politics or religion for some rzn, so to a degree i get his concern

a quote from an old woman is bout students protesting/harassing certain ppl coming to give talks/presentations, n i think in that regard she has a better idea of what the prob is.

however a lotta this article seems to be jus romanticizing a past that wasn't there. i def think cancel culture exists n blah blah but it ain't the unsolvable boogeyman nyt is making it sound like, also i jus think nyt approached dis s*** from the wrong angle

Does a right to transportation require other peoples labor yes or no?

The second

Yes, and people should legally be entitled to the entirety of the product of their labor and the value of acquires in the marketplace. This is something we don’t have.

You must absolutely have the right to access the full value of someone else’s labor product as it’s sold to you, and they must receive the entirety of the product of that labor.

Not that complicated, yet here we are where “freedom” means the private ownership of other people’s labor

I actually think the US has too much freedom of speech

F*** your freedom