You didn't even watch the video i linked cause it doesn't disagree with most of the points i see in this one so far. You're gonna criticize me and say i can't form my opinion while also linking a video

Cause Luke already went through this s*** with vader in episode 6. But i don't blame the director as much cause TFA left him having to explain why Luke ran away

I actually like Kanan more then Ezra but great choice

Mine is

Darth Vader
Luke Skywalker
Kylo Ren (TLJ) - (TROS NON CANON TRASH)

don't even argue with this mf. He absolutely won't accept any criticism for his precious movie even if it's valid

I linked a video because you did.

I don’t watch videos linked by losers, you should be able to defend your own arguments on your own lol

damn giving up already

TLJ Detractors really sensitive dweebs

I've already explained my point perfectly and you ignore them so i thought an educational video with visuals would be easier for you to digest. Since you seem to be lost in the argument.

mark hamill was subtweeting and throwing shade at rian johnson for like 2 years lol

pull up his tweets from end of 2017 when the movie came out and have at it

I gave you a counter argument. Sorry you didn’t want to use energy to actually try and counter my counter argument and that you had to have some loser on YouTube argue for you lol

UNCLE OWEN BEATING REVA'S ASS LMFAOOO

Why are you guys so hung up on what Mark Hamill thinks? Alec Guinness played one of the iconic characters and he thought Star Wars was ass

Lmao like even if they are right, it doesn’t change how i feel about TLJ really lol

Reva the most b**** made character in SW in a hot min.

They were disrespectful to this character when writing her

And then gets fried by stormtroopers who can’t aim in episode 4

Alec was right too

Give me your counter argument. Its wild how yall TLJ protectors are just as stubborn as the haters lol. Luke sky walker aready went through the same arc in episode 6. You regress your character to prop up a new one. I don't blame the director cause they werent left with much to work with but their reasoning for Luke's failure is stupid. sorry

It's all subjective but yeah TLJ was ass imo. No hate to Johnson tho cause he's very talented. I mostly blame Disney execs for being a bunch of dumbasses who didn't even bother to lay out a plan for the trilogy

Since you literally ignored my post. (Funny how you projected exactly what you did onto me)

Here it is again for you to actually reply to with a substantive argument (if you even have one)

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pretending like Luke is this infallible character that wouldn’t make a grave mistake like he did out of the immeasurable fear of the next vader is next level delusional

Luke nearly killed his own father out of pure anger, you cannot convince me that just because he got his s*** together by the end of one narrative that over a period of 30 years he is a character who cannot have conflict & flaws within him.
It’s next level delusional cope and very telling to me that you are the kind of person who wanted the safest and most boring of Star Wars movies ever, you wanted the true boring bland milk toast SW with characters who have no conflict, no more to learn about/from and no more intrigue, period.
You wanted a cameo not a character

Except he didn't? kylo turn is partially something luke did even though it was a honest mistake, He has nothing to do with vader being evil. He beat vader out of anger 30 years ago and is never supposed to be afraid or angry at something again?

Its not the fact Luke makes a mistake... It's that the mistake is a stupid one that makes no sense. Also it's how Luke reacts to it as well. Why would Luke run away and become a hermit leaving his friends to die? Luke would lay down his life to protect his friends but he just runs away. But this is all because of the trash setup in TFA. All so we could get back that original trilogy nostalgia with the empire vs rebels s***.

Yall really having a video vs video nerd off debate?

This yall right now

Luke is literally convinced that he would be of better use staying a hermit and dying off, no longer allowing to continue the Jedi Order due to the continuous failures of the Jedi and his failures being the latest & one of the biggest of his entire life.

The very reason he even thought of killing kylo was also due to following the Jedi mentality of letting go of close attachments.

He is clearly wrong here in terms of how helpful he thinks he is actually being and he is learning throughout this film on how to really solve his internal conflict and save his friends along with the rest of the resistance.

that video you posted is literally you rn posting a video mocking us posting videos

Congratulations, you played yourself

What a weak (and boring) response, carry on with the the 50 minute video versus by all means