BrickellBayside

2y

I'd disagree.

Better Dayz IMO is his best posthumous album, and Until the End of Time was great too.

Everything after Better Dayz though, I kind of think is cringe.

"Loyal to the game," "Pac's Life" those "Nu-mixxx classics" it really went off the rails

Chip Skylark

2y

What’s the one song that Mike Tyson used to walk out? I heard one version and it sounded amazing

BMZ

2y

Makaveli era was different.

BMZ

2y

Come hell or high water, down to slaughter opposers
Just another lost soul, stuck, callin' Jehovah
Outlaw 'til it's over, brandish my strap, back like a cobra
I stay drunk ‘cause I'm a mad man whenever sober

Pusha P

2y

When I was a kid I fwed some songs on Pacs Lofe and Loyal to the game but looking back, they didn't age well at all

It's like the record label believed that anything sounding old wasn't gonna sell so they decided to try to put it on new production but it just sounds so forced

BMZ

2y

interesting topic that doesn't get talked about enough.

Excuse for the long post but i got a lot to say about this

R U Still Down - Has some top tier highlights that stand strong in his catalogue - Do For Love, Only Fear Of Death, Nothing 2 Lose (top 10 pac), Get Money (even if the og is better), 16 On Deathrow, I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto (better than the og imo) but some of the remixed production is so weak is embarrassing. Like what the f*** is that beat on Enemies with me. probably the most butchered pac song ever. Along with bad remixed tracks and samples removed it makes the songs feel empty I honestly think for the most part its a pretty bad overall selection of songs. Theres actually a good handful of songs here that I just don't think are that good or worth releasing, This shouldn't have been a double disc. a running theme in his posthumous catalogue sadly. I could imagine when this dropped people must have thought this was them releasing the last songs he had left in the vault because it does feel like scraping the bottom of the barrel. Cut it down to 10-13 songs and its a great.

Still I Rise - I really like this one, It seems like they focused on actually finishing these songs instead of aimlessly remixing the vocals over any beat they could find. Even when the production is completely different from the OG its done very tastefully. Baby Don't Cry & Killuminati are done justice. Only issue is too much outlawz and needs more pac but thats just for me personally but hey it is a OUTLAWZ & 2PAC album at the end of the day so I get it. with that said that last solo outlawz song should have def been scrapped. Shame Outlawz just couldn't keep up with Pac when he got deep but I'd say this album probably did Pac's actual vision for him music justice.

Until The End Of Time - A small selection of classic songs with the original production left or enhanced and a few good remixes but for the most part its just another double disc filled with rushed remixes that are done poorly. For the most part these are songs that should have never been released or at least not in these awfully remixed forms. Awful attempt to bring Pac into the 2000's. This album drags so badly by the time you get to the second disc.

Better Dayz - A bit of variety than the last one and I'd say for the most part its the same level as Until The End Of Time as an overall album but I'll say theres some of the most shameful production so far on here.Piss poor attempts to make the production sound like 2002 radio songs. Its very clear Suge was not the musical genius behind deathrow if he was signing off on some of these songs. Whatcha Gon Do is awful. both versions of fair xchange are embarrassing. Glad we got Late Night & They Don't Give A F*** About Us.

Loyal To The Game - Embarrassing. I actually like the songs Em did for the Resurrection movie but this just feels like a bunch of beats he had laying around that got passed on by em himself, D12 & G-unit so he poorly stretched some random Pac vocals over them. His vocals are butchered. Ghetto Gospel is somewhat nostalgic for me even if Pac's vocals are dogshit. I dont need a obie & pac song in my life tho. sorry. Oh also the bonus track DJ Quik remix of Loyal To The Game is fire. better than the OG. shoulda got him to make the album

Pac's Life - Last money grab effort. completely skip. Sad way to finish it. Not one song worth playing.

A E M 7

2y

The Makaveli era was the best version of 2Pac. That was him at the peak of his powers, as far as his flow, delivery, lyricism, etc....

BrickellBayside

2y

Hearing Ashanti singing what y'all know about Pac's Life is hilarious. Cracks me up every time lol

BrickellBayside

2y

You can tell that Pac had so much s*** left over and was a cash cow, but in the early 00's, Record labels and handlers were still largely ran by people not in culture which is why they felt they had to remix so much of his s*** in an effort to modernize it.

And I say that as someone who's a fan of R U Still Down, Until the end of Time, and Better Dayz. Those all have standout records, but it's obvious that the decision makers were very much people who who weren't around when these songs were being made.

Part of that is because Pac was so hands on and people like He, Johnny J, Suge, were dead or in prison but nevertheless, you give white people a bunch of "dated" and unreleased pac records in 2000 and 2001, that's like gold and so you do what most would do -- Give those dated records to the hottest artists and producers on your label and tell them to modernize it.

BrickellBayside

2y

Hearing Ashanti singing what y'all know about Pac's Life is hilarious. Cracks me up every time lol

BrickellBayside

2y

Still Ballin is Hardddd

Changed Man is Hardddd

Fair Xchange shouldn't have been touched the OG is phenomenal but it's okay.

Better Dayz the song w/Isley is perfect and makes me kind of emotional ngl. one of his finest moments posthumous or alive

Mamma's Just a little girl, late night, Thugz Mansion both versions,

My Block (Nitty Remix) is another one of his finest moments.

Yeah y'all tripping Better Dayz is awesome.

Chip Skylark

2y

What’s the one song that Mike Tyson used to walk out? I heard one version and it sounded amazing

BMZ

2y

might be thinking of this one

BMZ

2y

interesting topic that doesn't get talked about enough.

Excuse for the long post but i got a lot to say about this

R U Still Down - Has some top tier highlights that stand strong in his catalogue - Do For Love, Only Fear Of Death, Nothing 2 Lose (top 10 pac), Get Money (even if the og is better), 16 On Deathrow, I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto (better than the og imo) but some of the remixed production is so weak is embarrassing. Like what the f*** is that beat on Enemies with me. probably the most butchered pac song ever. Along with bad remixed tracks and samples removed it makes the songs feel empty I honestly think for the most part its a pretty bad overall selection of songs. Theres actually a good handful of songs here that I just don't think are that good or worth releasing, This shouldn't have been a double disc. a running theme in his posthumous catalogue sadly. I could imagine when this dropped people must have thought this was them releasing the last songs he had left in the vault because it does feel like scraping the bottom of the barrel. Cut it down to 10-13 songs and its a great.

Still I Rise - I really like this one, It seems like they focused on actually finishing these songs instead of aimlessly remixing the vocals over any beat they could find. Even when the production is completely different from the OG its done very tastefully. Baby Don't Cry & Killuminati are done justice. Only issue is too much outlawz and needs more pac but thats just for me personally but hey it is a OUTLAWZ & 2PAC album at the end of the day so I get it. with that said that last solo outlawz song should have def been scrapped. Shame Outlawz just couldn't keep up with Pac when he got deep but I'd say this album probably did Pac's actual vision for him music justice.

Until The End Of Time - A small selection of classic songs with the original production left or enhanced and a few good remixes but for the most part its just another double disc filled with rushed remixes that are done poorly. For the most part these are songs that should have never been released or at least not in these awfully remixed forms. Awful attempt to bring Pac into the 2000's. This album drags so badly by the time you get to the second disc.

Better Dayz - A bit of variety than the last one and I'd say for the most part its the same level as Until The End Of Time as an overall album but I'll say theres some of the most shameful production so far on here.Piss poor attempts to make the production sound like 2002 radio songs. Its very clear Suge was not the musical genius behind deathrow if he was signing off on some of these songs. Whatcha Gon Do is awful. both versions of fair xchange are embarrassing. Glad we got Late Night & They Don't Give A F*** About Us.

Loyal To The Game - Embarrassing. I actually like the songs Em did for the Resurrection movie but this just feels like a bunch of beats he had laying around that got passed on by em himself, D12 & G-unit so he poorly stretched some random Pac vocals over them. His vocals are butchered. Ghetto Gospel is somewhat nostalgic for me even if Pac's vocals are dogshit. I dont need a obie & pac song in my life tho. sorry. Oh also the bonus track DJ Quik remix of Loyal To The Game is fire. better than the OG. shoulda got him to make the album

Pac's Life - Last money grab effort. completely skip. Sad way to finish it. Not one song worth playing.

BMZ

2y

might be thinking of this one

BMZ

2y

might be thinking of this one

BMZ

2y

u ever heard the solo version? fire

Gvdly

2y

rip the goat and shock g