This whole sales/net spend argument falls completely flat in the market inflation debate. If you sell 8 players for 300 mil, but just bought a mid one for 120+ mil you’ve still inflated the market.
I’m glad you acknowledge paying like 80 mil a piece for sancho and antony did irreparable damage to the market
Yeah Isak was bad as well, but at least he proved himself to be able to get 20+ prem goals. Wirtz had one good season in a farmers league.
“one good season in a farmers league”
bruh he was like 3 or 4 seasons in consistently balling out for Leverkusen wdym (not even counting that period when he was out with ACL for nearly a year lol)
and yes i get the farmers league agenda but even in UCL he was delivering I believe
let’s not act like there wasn’t like 2 or 3 more clubs lined up in the queue who would pay the same s*** for him if he chose them instead, everyone was creaming about him at the time
and I say that as someone who wasn’t super excited about his arrival compared to the rest of the fanbase ig, yes i was excited but compared to the other signings i didn’t really see the vision with Wirtz like that under Slot, besides him being a great player (which he at least showed glimpses of still in dec-feb)
but idk man calling wirtz a one season wonder is a huge stretch
“one good season in a farmers league”
bruh he was like 3 or 4 seasons in consistently balling out for Leverkusen wdym (not even counting that period when he was out with ACL for nearly a year lol)
and yes i get the farmers league agenda but even in UCL he was delivering I believe
let’s not act like there wasn’t like 2 or 3 more clubs lined up in the queue who would pay the same s*** for him if he chose them instead, everyone was creaming about him at the time
and I say that as someone who wasn’t super excited about his arrival compared to the rest of the fanbase ig, yes i was excited but compared to the other signings i didn’t really see the vision with Wirtz like that under Slot, besides him being a great player (which he at least showed glimpses of still in dec-feb)
but idk man calling wirtz a one season wonder is a huge stretch
he’s tripping wirtz was a legit prodigy but his fee should have been like 90 mil that tipped the market for the time being
market actually corrected its self post Neymar to PSG multiple times it’s just more prem teams have money, the demand is there yada yada
1. United only paid 80 mil for Antony, that 100 mil story only got invented because he signed for United. Add-ons were never paid.
2. United got made fun of for 2 whole years, every opportunity an a***yst had (especially United ex players) they mentioned this fake transfer fee and how s*** Antony was. On the other hand it’s been close to crickets on Wirtz and Isak (who both cost considerably more), every now and then we got someone saying ‘there is a talented player in there, but he hasn’t shown it so far’. That’s it.
ok my bad apologies
and it has been all but close to crickets with Wirtz imo, they been on his ass…. and again after the Newcastle game (and deservedly so I have to say)
Isak tbf he barely played any games (or mostly featured from the bench) still so that’s unfair to judge yet imo (even though I’ve been very discontent with him, at least Wirtz showed glimpses ig)
Isak’s time to be put under scrutiny comes now and it’s gonna be ticking fast, he has to come through consistently until like Christmas or else he’s gonna get the hate let’s be real
I’m glad you acknowledge paying like 80 mil a piece for sancho and antony did irreparable damage to the market
Antony sum was ridiculous, but did not move the market that much since it got so heavily criticised and ridiculed. This was only because it was Man United that signed him though.
When media darling Liverpool sign two duds for a lot more there was silence, some controlled criticism at most, that's what opened the floodgates for this summer.
Chelsea and City can't be overlooked as well though, signing Enzo and Caicedo for ridiculous sums 2 years ago and City setting the outrageous standard for bottom table prem clubs early in this window with Anderson (another one season wonder).
he’s tripping wirtz was a legit prodigy but his fee should have been like 90 mil that tipped the market for the time being
yeah I can agree on that. but on the other hand I don’t blame Leverkusen for that asking price, Bayern or City would’ve quite likely paid that as well if they agreed terms on the player side
I wish y’all did lol I been saying that something didn’t sit right with me with you lot getting Cherki for barely 40m and us Wirtz for 120 lol
ok my bad apologies
and it has been all but close to crickets with Wirtz imo, they been on his ass…. and again after the Newcastle game (and deservedly so I have to say)
Isak tbf he barely played any games (or mostly featured from the bench) still so that’s unfair to judge yet imo (even though I’ve been very discontent with him, at least Wirtz showed glimpses ig)
Isak’s time to be put under scrutiny comes now and it’s gonna be ticking fast, he has to come through consistently until like Christmas or else he’s gonna get the hate let’s be real
I didn't see dozens of viral videos on Wirtz weekly where there were pathetic 'analysts' climbing over each other on TV to see who could get the 'funniest' clip criticizing every bad action Wirtz made in game, like we did with the likes of Maguire and Antony. To say he's been criticised anywhere close to them is crazy.
I stil rate Isak very highly, he's proved himself in the past and gotten unlucky with injuries and bad wingers last season. He'll be alright if Ekitike doesn't permanently bench him.
I didn't see dozens of viral videos on Wirtz weekly where there were pathetic 'analysts' climbing over each other on TV to see who could get the 'funniest' clip criticizing every bad action Wirtz made in game, like we did with the likes of Maguire and Antony. To say he's been criticised anywhere close to them is crazy.
I stil rate Isak very highly, he's proved himself in the past and gotten unlucky with injuries and bad wingers last season. He'll be alright if Ekitike doesn't permanently bench him.
Yeah that I agree with I suppose. Maguire I wouldn’t really put him in there since he plays in defense where mistakes are way more on the eye, sadly defenders and keepers often get treated more unfair than the rest
But yeah with Wirtz it’s more about that he just isn’t there at all lol, Antony usually did some visibly stupid s*** that they would rightfully fry him for. Wirtz doesn’t really do that at least so on a surface level it might seem harder to pinpoint it, but his overall presence just sucks…. unless he has a game like against Newcastle where he loses almost every ball, then it’s visible
and Ekitike might be cooked I fear
big question mark if he can ever make it back to the former level I’m afraid, Achilles injuries are no joke, just look at Kimpembe or Loftus-Cheek post that injury, Hudson-Odoi too…. Loftus-Cheek probably the slowest player I know these days lmao. These guys just aren’t the same players they were before movement wise, the worse especially for Ekitike’s case I fear
yeah I can agree on that. but on the other hand I don’t blame Leverkusen for that asking price, Bayern or City would’ve quite likely paid that as well if they agreed terms on the player side
I wish y’all did lol I been saying that something didn’t sit right with me with you lot getting Cherki for barely 40m and us Wirtz for 120 lol
dude it stunk to me from day one, I think subconsciously the bit of similarity between him & Foden’s style scared the s*** out of me along with the price tag
Antony sum was ridiculous, but did not move the market that much since it got so heavily criticised and ridiculed. This was only because it was Man United that signed him though.
When media darling Liverpool sign two duds for a lot more there was silence, some controlled criticism at most, that's what opened the floodgates for this summer.
Chelsea and City can't be overlooked as well though, signing Enzo and Caicedo for ridiculous sums 2 years ago and City setting the outrageous standard for bottom table prem clubs early in this window with Anderson (another one season wonder).
really can’t look past the Liverpool bit, first time you’ve seen a team be championed in the media for spending half a billion in one instance
really can’t look past the Liverpool bit, first time you’ve seen a team be championed in the media for spending half a billion in one instance
bbbut net spend was 'only' 250 mil.
Even them selling their best winger that summer got applauded lol, rest of the outgoings boosting their 'net spend' were mostly shady dealings as well lol
bbbut net spend was 'only' 250 mil.
Even them selling their best winger that summer got applauded lol, rest of the outgoings boosting their 'net spend' were mostly shady dealings as well lol
Shady dealings as in what ?
And no Diaz was clearly not our best winger after Salah PFA and 45+ g/a season let’s not be ridiculous
That’s like trying to say Mbeumo was y’all best player last season over Bruno, sounds ridiculous doesn’t it
Is this the best attacking quartet in the history of football?
Who's stopping them from winning everything
Is this the best attacking quartet in the history of football?
Who's stopping them from winning everything
