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    Poopfeast420

    Again, you want to argue semantics. No one’s first thought on a code of silence would be blackmail.

    Adultery is having s***with someone that’s not your spouse. If you found out that a couple had a threesome, you could say they committed adultery. Nobody would say that though because that’s not how we conversationally define adultery, even though it fits the literal definition.

    Idk how else to get this across

    The evidence being kept is what makes the difference between something being or not being blackmail

    If you knowingly keep evidence that would prove the guilt of another person, even if it would prove the guilt of both of you, that's blackmail

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    Tuneout

    ironic u are accusing me of arguing semantics lol thats like your go to

    You’re running the gamut of logical fallacies during this.

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    Bruuiisees

    This argument is being attributed to me but for 99% of its duration it was just et and Tuneout

    If I bring you up, I will get more likes

    Broosenomics

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    Bruuiisees

    The evidence being kept is what makes the difference between something being or not being blackmail

    If you knowingly keep evidence that would prove the guilt of another person, even if it would prove the guilt of both of you, that's blackmail

    You don’t need evidence to commit blackmail.

    Give me $10,000 or I’ll tell the police about the murder is still blackmail.

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    Poopfeast420

    You’re running the gamut of logical fallacies during this.

    no you literally refuse to accept someone keeping secret recordings of someone raping kids is blackmail and are arguing most people think that’s a accurate assessment. when its the literal defitnion of blackmail and most reasonable people would agree it fits that defitnion.

    then youre getting philosophical strawmanning like a sperg about what truly is blackmail by listing bullshit edge cases that have no real connection to what we are talking about

  • Tuneout

    no you literally refuse to accept someone keeping secret recordings of someone raping kids is blackmail and are arguing most people think that’s a accurate assessment. when its the literal defitnion of blackmail and most reasonable people would agree it fits that defitnion.

    then youre getting philosophical strawmanning like a sperg about what truly is blackmail by listing bullshit edge cases that have no real connection to what we are talking about

    then accusing me of being semantic. its the most autistic s*** ive ever seen lol

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    Tuneout

    no you literally refuse to accept someone keeping secret recordings of someone raping kids is blackmail and are arguing most people think that’s a accurate assessment. when its the literal defitnion of blackmail and most reasonable people would agree it fits that defitnion.

    then youre getting philosophical strawmanning like a sperg about what truly is blackmail by listing bullshit edge cases that have no real connection to what we are talking about

    No, most people wouldn’t think that’s blackmail. In order for it to be blackmail, there would have to be a threat made. Without the threat, there is no blackmail.

  • Poopfeast420

    No, most people wouldn’t think that’s blackmail. In order for it to be blackmail, there would have to be a threat made. Without the threat, there is no blackmail.

    you dont need ot threaten someone for it to be blackmail if its implied, which recording somebody does that.

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    Tuneout

    no you literally refuse to accept someone keeping secret recordings of someone raping kids is blackmail and are arguing most people think that’s a accurate assessment. when its the literal defitnion of blackmail and most reasonable people would agree it fits that defitnion.

    then youre getting philosophical strawmanning like a sperg about what truly is blackmail by listing bullshit edge cases that have no real connection to what we are talking about

    How is a code of silence a bullshit edge case , it’s the only relevant case to this discussion

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    Poopfeast420

    You don’t need evidence to commit blackmail.

    Give me $10,000 or I’ll tell the police about the murder is still blackmail.

    Yes if you specifically voice that as a threat that is also blackmail

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    Poopfeast420

    How is a code of silence a bullshit edge case , it’s the only relevant case to this discussion

    because theres a big difference between a code of silence and someone secretly recording the crimes to f*** with the other person

    obviously

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    Bruuiisees

    Yes if you specifically voice that as a threat that is also blackmail

    Yes, but a code of silence is different. And whether or not evidence is involved, it’s still a code of silence if the only expectation from both parties is silence. When you start asking for money, then it’s blackmail

  • Poopfeast420

    Yes, but a code of silence is different. And whether or not evidence is involved, it’s still a code of silence if the only expectation from both parties is silence. When you start asking for money, then it’s blackmail

    thats just not the defitnion of blackmail but you can argue it has better blackmail vibes i guess

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    Tuneout

    because theres a big difference between a code of silence and someone secretly recording the crimes to f*** with the other person

    obviously

    Yes! Finally! To f*** with the other person. There’s no evidence of that piece. I’m glad we got here

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    Poopfeast420

    Yes, but a code of silence is different. And whether or not evidence is involved, it’s still a code of silence if the only expectation from both parties is silence. When you start asking for money, then it’s blackmail

    No

    blackmail can have nothing to do with money

    A code of silence where one party keeps evidence of the other side doing something to help guarantee it is blackmail

  • Poopfeast420

    Yes! Finally! To f*** with the other person. There’s no evidence of that piece. I’m glad we got here

    the act of recording this stuff, which later became public he did, is f***ing with the other people

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    What is with all the text walls am i supposed to read this crap

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    CutiePieHole

    What is with all the text walls am i supposed to read this crap

    no save yourself

  • CutiePieHole

    What is with all the text walls am i supposed to read this crap

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    Bruuiisees

    No

    blackmail can have nothing to do with money

    A code of silence where one party keeps evidence of the other side doing something to help guarantee it is blackmail

    It’s not what most people would refer to as blackmail. It would still be a code of silence. Because the expectation doesn’t change.

    Like there’s no difference between me going to the police and confessing and telling them in detail about the murder and your role in it, vs. me going to the police and doing that and also having a piece of evidence. It doesn’t change the premise.

  • Tuneout

    no save yourself

    Ok i am putting my phonne under my pillow which means i am soon too fall asleep . Good Night

  • CutiePieHole

    Ok i am putting my phonne under my pillow which means i am soon too fall asleep . Good Night

    yes im going to bed rn for real i regret giving more than 20 minutes entertaining this

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    Poopfeast420

    It’s not what most people would refer to as blackmail. It would still be a code of silence. Because the expectation doesn’t change.

    Like there’s no difference between me going to the police and confessing and telling them in detail about the murder and your role in it, vs. me going to the police and doing that and also having a piece of evidence. It doesn’t change the premise.

    Having an expectation and using damning evidence of another person that would convince them to help fulfill their side of the expectation is blackmail

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    Bruuiisees

    Having an expectation and using damning evidence of another person that would convince them to help fulfill their side of the expectation is blackmail

    You already have the damning evidence in your ability to just talk to the police if yall killed a person together.

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    Poopfeast420

    You already have the damning evidence in your ability to just talk to the police if yall killed a person together.

    You don't understand how them keeping evidence is more threatening than the potential threat that they might say something?