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  • May 28, 2021
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    cotton dockers

    Kinda feeling like a Mach x Craven project could rival FDM or The Spook.

    FDM would be a tough one to beat tbf.

  • May 28, 2021

    I hear you regarding Sadhu and Spook, but I could find 100 rappers who I would rather want Sadhu to produce for.

  • May 28, 2021
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    Marcus is Dust

    FDM would be a tough one to beat tbf.

    I did not know they had a "Kriminel" in them. But I know not everyone likes "Marshmallow Test" as much as I do, and some people don't even like "Squeaky Hinge".

  • May 28, 2021
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    v12

    it’s been a week since pray for haiti dropped. got a few questions since it’s been some time since we digested it.

    is it aoty to you (if not whats aoty)?
    where does it rank compared to other mach-hommy albums
    top 3 tracks on it

    I've still got Haram ahead of this. Probably Negro Deluxe too.

    Very possibly his best album to me. The cohesiveness, length, minimal features were all much needed.

    Kriminel, Makrel Jaxon, Marie

  • May 28, 2021
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    cotton dockers

    I did not know they had a "Kriminel" in them. But I know not everyone likes "Marshmallow Test" as much as I do, and some people don't even like "Squeaky Hinge".

    "Squeaky Hinge" wasnt very good imo. Loved the Conway remix tape Craven did, and also liked Cravens solo albums + the one he did with Ransom.

  • May 28, 2021
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    DwindlingSun

    I've still got Haram ahead of this. Probably Negro Deluxe too.

    Very possibly his best album to me. The cohesiveness, length, minimal features were all much needed.

    Kriminel, Makrel Jaxon, Marie

    Do you find HBO overly long? Did this one hit a sweet spot for you lengthwise (pause)?

  • 710sup

    "Squeaky Hinge" wasnt very good imo. Loved the Conway remix tape Craven did, and also liked Cravens solo albums + the one he did with Ransom.

    Yeah, I slept on all that Ransom stuff because of all of the terrible cover art Really great projects.

  • May 28, 2021
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    cotton dockers

    Do you find HBO overly long? Did this one hit a sweet spot for you lengthwise (pause)?

    Yeah I definitely find HBO too long. 30-40 mins is always the sweet spot to me. This is immediately easier for me to replay in full.

    I do like all the added soundbites and audio clips in HBO though, I wish this one had more of that. The skits feel a bit inconsequential here.

    And would have liked more creativity with the transitions. I really like the way the beat on Blockchain comes in after that pitch shift. Most of the others just come in and as leave as they are.

    Some added texture/detailing like that would have helped.

  • May 28, 2021
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    Marcus is Dust
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    I still got Haram AOTY.

    Feel like this is close to top tier Mach, although I think HBO and WKJ are still my favorites.

    Favorite joints on here are Kriminel, Makrel Jaxon, Marie

    wkj project pisses me off cos i bet they had more in those sessions they kept to themselves it needed at least a full version of mittrom it’s too short and it needed two - three songs on it

  • May 28, 2021
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    cotton dockers

    Kinda feeling like a Mach x Craven project could rival FDM or The Spook.

    he easily could. mozambique drill, best songs on mhl, kriminel which is just spectacular, zucchini, cento percento, blk$ and phi slamma is remarkable

  • May 28, 2021
    DwindlingSun

    I've still got Haram ahead of this. Probably Negro Deluxe too.

    Very possibly his best album to me. The cohesiveness, length, minimal features were all much needed.

    Kriminel, Makrel Jaxon, Marie

    felt like a spiritual successor to hbo imo idk if mach will feel the same way but it is a lot more like that album which is why i love it so much. hbo ain’t even in my top 3 for mach but i miss that sound a lot and glad mach made more of that

  • DwindlingSun

    Yeah I definitely find HBO too long. 30-40 mins is always the sweet spot to me. This is immediately easier for me to replay in full.

    I do like all the added soundbites and audio clips in HBO though, I wish this one had more of that. The skits feel a bit inconsequential here.

    And would have liked more creativity with the transitions. I really like the way the beat on Blockchain comes in after that pitch shift. Most of the others just come in and as leave as they are.

    Some added texture/detailing like that would have helped.

    Yeah, some MHL level transitions would have been cool. (Perhaps Preservation had a hand in that area there?)

  • May 28, 2021
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    v12

    he easily could. mozambique drill, best songs on mhl, kriminel which is just spectacular, zucchini, cento percento, blk$ and phi slamma is remarkable

    someone needs to put together a mixtape of all their songs

  • May 28, 2021
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    v12

    it’s been a week since pray for haiti dropped. got a few questions since it’s been some time since we digested it.

    is it aoty to you (if not whats aoty)?
    where does it rank compared to other mach-hommy albums
    top 3 tracks on it

    AOTY so far but a few more listens of Navy's Reprise might change that, also really enjoyed An Overview on Phenomenal Nature and To See the Next Part of the Dream

    Maybe top 5 Mach? Would probably put HBO, FYI, Luh Hertz, and Dumpmeister above it

    Kriminel, Marie, and Au Revoir/Ten Boxes/Murder Czn can't decide

  • May 28, 2021
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    v12

    wkj project pisses me off cos i bet they had more in those sessions they kept to themselves it needed at least a full version of mittrom it’s too short and it needed two - three songs on it

    Fr. The production and vibe of the EP were so nice. Could’ve used more tracks for sure.

  • May 28, 2021
    Marcus is Dust

    someone needs to put together a mixtape of all their songs

    they really should cos that’s an impressive list. madlib, roc marci (some features as well as a full roc produced tape) alc, nic craven the ones i want a collab tape the most from

  • May 28, 2021
    KarlRemarks

    AOTY so far but a few more listens of Navy's Reprise might change that, also really enjoyed An Overview on Phenomenal Nature and To See the Next Part of the Dream

    Maybe top 5 Mach? Would probably put HBO, FYI, Luh Hertz, and Dumpmeister above it

    Kriminel, Marie, and Au Revoir/Ten Boxes/Murder Czn can't decide

    navy’s reprise very close second i didn’t think he’d make an album as good as song of sage so soon but he did if not better imo cos i can bump it more since it’s got a much happier vibe

  • May 28, 2021
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    tbh i wish i coulda seen a messiah muzik beat on pray for haiti i cant lie loved soon jah due beat

  • May 28, 2021
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    cotton dockers

    Kinda feeling like a Mach x Craven project could rival FDM or The Spook.

    Craven's stock keeps going up in my book - the BLK $ loop is so addictive, would love to see a full Mach x Craven project

    Also no surprise he had the best beat on Medhane's (pretty mid btw) project that dropped today

  • May 28, 2021
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    DwindlingSun

    Yeah I definitely find HBO too long. 30-40 mins is always the sweet spot to me. This is immediately easier for me to replay in full.

    I do like all the added soundbites and audio clips in HBO though, I wish this one had more of that. The skits feel a bit inconsequential here.

    And would have liked more creativity with the transitions. I really like the way the beat on Blockchain comes in after that pitch shift. Most of the others just come in and as leave as they are.

    Some added texture/detailing like that would have helped.

    Those details that are missing in PfH are what make Haram so good to me. The smooth transitions, the soundbites from movie clips/interviews, etc. just raise the quality of the album so much to me. Also felt like Haram had such a variety of sounds that every song and idea was fresh.

    PfH kinda suffered from lack of transitions, and some songs could’ve used a beat switch or an extra verse here and there.

    Also I feel like the first half just eclipses the second.

  • May 28, 2021
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    v12

    tbh i wish i coulda seen a messiah muzik beat on pray for haiti i cant lie loved soon jah due beat

    He did Magnum Band

  • May 28, 2021
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    I suppose I don’t love the “Squeaky Hinge” beat either @710sup but I don’t hate it either, and I like the lyrics. But I also don’t know that anyone else could have used the “Kriminel” beat and made quite that good a song with it.

  • May 28, 2021
    Marcus is Dust

    someone needs to put together a mixtape of all their songs

    They’ve got 9-10 songs together if you wanna count “Panel Lift Up” (which I do).